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Thread: How do you deal with Root/Snare?

Bhelzebub
Mon May 30, 2005 10:15 am
#27



Candali wrote:
..Honestly, melee vs ranged is the easiest matchup you'll face.





...until you go up against that smuggler =)




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Sabaoth
Tue May 31, 2005 4:15 am
#28

Devs are very stupid, they again cater to the whiny BHers that can't kill master enchancers so what do they do put in a overpowering move like root to kill uber healing jedis, but they don't realize that more than 45% of people that play now are still melee professions.


Smuggler concussive shot is a mofo when you are taking massive dmg.



I have innate TKM grade armor (not worth sh!t) in PvP with out COB and if you are rooted getting hit by a combination of 1 melee that has put armor break on you and a ranged opponent you are ass out, may as well make a macro saying free PvP rating.


Dumb ass devs and I mean it!!





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e-Chu-Ta
Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:45 pm
#29

I use a rifle if things get bad. I have a trando hunting rifle (can be used by anyone andI do about 420 damage to a player) its not great damage but better than just standing there getting shot. I have acutally killed a BH/Smug with this tactic.





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GaZZacK
Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:51 pm
#30

avoid pvp....or playing all together.



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e-Chu-Ta
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:42 pm
#31

I pull out my trando huntingrifle (speed powered up) and dish out around 420 damage (with ZERO marksman skills).







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Ssedi
Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:45 pm
#32

I think all roots are curenntly bugged.


They are suppose to drop when damage is delevered.


I know BH's roots are getting fixed for that so I assume the others.



It's insane, right now ranged with the right roots can solo anything in the game simply because the mob can't move to attack them.





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SIrKilgore
Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:09 am
#33






Ssedi wrote:

I think all roots are curenntly bugged.


They are suppose to drop when damage is delevered.


I know BH's roots are getting fixed for that so I assume the others.



It's insane, right now ranged with the right roots can solo anything in the game simply because the mob can't move to attack them.








The only root that is supposed to break on damage is concussion shot. Stopping shot fomr pistoleer is not.



BH have no roots in their profession. It is jsut people using roots fomr other professions to help out their BH skills.


Stopping shot is not really a problem. 1 on 1 any meleer should eb able to keep htemselves healed enough to outlast the root and its almost 30 seconds before it canbe reapplied. However, as has been said concussion shot lasts so long and can be reapplied almost instantly.


Do I worry about concusssion shot? Not really, but then I'm doc 4xx4/tkm/pike x44x 1 vs 1 very few ranged cna hurt me except someone with a god rifle. 1300 damage+ with pup hurts when they sniper.


The thing is, that if you are going to PvP, almost everyone eneds to have either 4xxx in Doc, or 4xxx in CM. Sure some people can do without it, but its rare.





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Boscohark
Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:29 am
#34






Ciao wrote:

if you duel someone and they burst run after a kd its over. Next comes the root and the distance widens till you are nothing but a pin cushion.


I can see now way around this. I know you are all gonna beat your chest and say how awesome you are but if you faced yourself as a ranged player, you would lose, everytime!!


There is nothing you can do.





Being a Wookiee and a Master Doc as well as Master Pikeman i have a certain advantage. When rooted, I switch to Assault Bowcaster to continue my attack, even with just the basic Ranged I can hit for decent damage. Plus I can heal myself until the root is gone. So Root is really no issue to me. Also, at the Fan Fest the Devs were talking about adding in some Root resists, perhaps level based, to balance its effect. I personally would like to see a recovery fnction like we have for KD , Blind etc.



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Gunman21
Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:59 am
#35

Like the others hasve said, CoB and lunge are your only real safety-nets to root.


Another option is to keep a Lvl 54 non-skillbox certed ranged weapon on your toolbar, then switch your pike for it when rooted, and that wayyou can at least do minimal damage to your target rather than sitting there. (be sure to switch back to your pike after root ends!) This won't give you a whole lot of damage potential but it might be enough to scare your target or distract him/her.




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ralphydeaglo
Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:26 pm
#36

just have master doc master pike 0/1/0/3 or 0/0/1/3 can remeber but you cant hit me first of all and i heal my self when you do. thats the selution from my point of view.
Ravanger
Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:14 am
#37

i have to admit i have been killed while rooted before i even reach my opponent.... i even fought a rifleman up close and lost lol. but he had one heck of a rifle. anyhow, i really don't know a way to get around root, especailly a rifleman using smuggler root



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PyscoJuggalo
Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:28 am
#38

How well do you Doc/Pikemen fair against:


Root + Startle + Disarm?



I ask because my Gorath Char is going Master Pikeman/Doctor..........





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