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to bad my lva got a speed slice... it was 900 dmg un sliced :-/

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antares_Kauri wrote:

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FanofFlaw wrote:

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annelid0 wrote:

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Xanatosxtreme wrote:

Then i thought to myself if only the dmg multiplyer was like the swordsman 2handedhit3 then pikeman would really own.

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Well, since pointing out errors in this thread seems to be the hip thing to do...

The polearmhit3 damage multiplier is EXACTLY the same as the 2handhit3 damage multiplier. They're both 4x.

So I guess we really own.

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Unless it was fixed (doubtful) polehit3 is a 3 times multiplier.

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I tested this a long time ago. It's 4x now. I have the thread where I posted my results someplace...I'll find it later.

antares

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I've also tested it repeatedly, and it's most assuredly a 4x modifier. See here for details.

Why people who've never tested it for themselves insist on saying it's a 3x modifier to this day is beyond my understanding. It's one thing to present evidence to the contrary, it's quite another to blindly cling to incorrect information.

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micfiygd wrote:

omg ur grammer is so bad in ur title im sry but me (being a teacher) i have to fix this

I just seen a acklay go down....

it should be...

I just SAW AN acklay go down..

im sry but i just ahd to say that other then that awesum story and i hope wit CU we get a better damage multiplier and i need a really nice pike

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Message Edited by neofghtr816 on 03-06-2005 02:41 PM

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StellarSwordsman wrote:

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Kaukiji wrote:
i havent done tests but im 95% sure that it is less damaging, i was speed capped w/ both an LVA and a scythe hitting the same people and i was outdamaging myself with my 430 max scythe as opposed to my 900 max LVA....i seriously find that hard to believe that it has been fixed, unless it has been fixed since i dropped swords about a week ago, it would be interesting if somone can actually ask a dev if it has been changed or not

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LOL

I dont need to ask, Ive proved it to MYSELF over and over again. Dont be a fool and post ignorant comments such as these without some data to back up your findings. Like I said earlier in this post... "How can you explain an 8000+ hit in PvE" (with an 1100 max LVA?)? Actually with a PuP (1300 max) this thing hit for over 10000. Gawd i love anti - decay kits

1100X4 = 4400

4400X2 = 8800

1300x4 = 5200

5200x2 = 10400

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um....you proved it to yourself? you are just the genius of teh bunch huh? it wasnt truly an ignorant comment really, i was just saying i find myself out damaging myself with my 430 max scythe as opposed to my 900 max lva, i use hit3 for both of them and find me dropping NS sentinels very fast w/ my scythe and less fast with my 900 max lva...i know that this may just seem like it cuz of swordsman's better defense and all but i dunno, thats what i have seen.

also did you factor in armor piercing into that whole scheme w/ teh 8k hit? i honestly have no idea what im talking about so i will leave it up to all of you who test it, just dont call my statements ignorant when i say in teh first place "i havent done tests" and thus ADMITTING that i dont know what im talking about for sure and cant back it up lol

on a final note, i was only saying asking a dev because we can only be 100% sure if we ask one cant we? unless your a dev, are you?

if your reading this and wondering what the hell im talking about, im simply saying dont flame me just cuz you disagree, i spend my time PLAYING as a pikeman, not running tests on it

Message Edited by Kaukiji on 03-07-2005 05:03 PM

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Kaukiji wrote:

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StellarSwordsman wrote:

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Kaukiji wrote:
i havent done tests but im 95% sure that it is less damaging, i was speed capped w/ both an LVA and a scythe hitting the same people and i was outdamaging myself with my 430 max scythe as opposed to my 900 max LVA....i seriously find that hard to believe that it has been fixed, unless it has been fixed since i dropped swords about a week ago, it would be interesting if somone can actually ask a dev if it has been changed or not

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LOL

I dont need to ask, Ive proved it to MYSELF over and over again. Dont be a fool and post ignorant comments such as these without some data to back up your findings. Like I said earlier in this post... "How can you explain an 8000+ hit in PvE" (with an 1100 max LVA?)? Actually with a PuP (1300 max) this thing hit for over 10000. Gawd i love anti - decay kits

1100X4 = 4400

4400X2 = 8800

1300x4 = 5200

5200x2 = 10400

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um....you proved it to yourself? you are just the genius of teh bunch huh? it wasnt truly an ignorant comment really, i was just saying i find myself out damaging myself with my 430 max scythe as opposed to my 900 max lva, i use hit3 for both of them and find me dropping NS sentinels very fast w/ my scythe and less fast with my 900 max lva...i know that this may just seem like it cuz of swordsman's better defense and all but i dunno, thats what i have seen.

also did you factor in armor piercing into that whole scheme w/ teh 8k hit? i honestly have no idea what im talking about so i will leave it up to all of you who test it, just dont call my statements ignorant when i say in teh first place "i havent done tests" and thus ADMITTING that i dont know what im talking about for sure and cant back it up lol

on a final note, i was only saying asking a dev because we can only be 100% sure if we ask one cant we? unless your a dev, are you?

if your reading this and wondering what the hell im talking about, im simply saying dont flame me just cuz you disagree, i spend my time PLAYING as a pikeman, not running tests on it

Message Edited by Kaukiji on 03-07-2005 05:03 PM

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Well, no, they play Pikemen, and are actually able to test them.. and have been around a whole lot longer than you.. so.. therefore rather than writing some rant about how wrong you would be, they state the correct facts, and don't look like a jackass in the process.

Besides.. how long could you have played as a Pikeman.. Mr. Pikeman/BH.

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TheN3W wrote:

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Kaukiji wrote:

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StellarSwordsman wrote:

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Kaukiji wrote:
i havent done tests but im 95% sure that it is less damaging, i was speed capped w/ both an LVA and a scythe hitting the same people and i was outdamaging myself with my 430 max scythe as opposed to my 900 max LVA....i seriously find that hard to believe that it has been fixed, unless it has been fixed since i dropped swords about a week ago, it would be interesting if somone can actually ask a dev if it has been changed or not

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LOL

I dont need to ask, Ive proved it to MYSELF over and over again. Dont be a fool and post ignorant comments such as these without some data to back up your findings. Like I said earlier in this post... "How can you explain an 8000+ hit in PvE" (with an 1100 max LVA?)? Actually with a PuP (1300 max) this thing hit for over 10000. Gawd i love anti - decay kits

1100X4 = 4400

4400X2 = 8800

1300x4 = 5200

5200x2 = 10400

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um....you proved it to yourself? you are just the genius of teh bunch huh? it wasnt truly an ignorant comment really, i was just saying i find myself out damaging myself with my 430 max scythe as opposed to my 900 max lva, i use hit3 for both of them and find me dropping NS sentinels very fast w/ my scythe and less fast with my 900 max lva...i know that this may just seem like it cuz of swordsman's better defense and all but i dunno, thats what i have seen.

also did you factor in armor piercing into that whole scheme w/ teh 8k hit? i honestly have no idea what im talking about so i will leave it up to all of you who test it, just dont call my statements ignorant when i say in teh first place "i havent done tests" and thus ADMITTING that i dont know what im talking about for sure and cant back it up lol

on a final note, i was only saying asking a dev because we can only be 100% sure if we ask one cant we? unless your a dev, are you?

if your reading this and wondering what the hell im talking about, im simply saying dont flame me just cuz you disagree, i spend my time PLAYING as a pikeman, not running tests on it

Message Edited by Kaukiji on 03-07-2005 05:03 PM

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Well, no, they play Pikemen, and are actually able to test them.. and have been around a whole lot longer than you.. so.. therefore rather than writing some rant about how wrong you would be, they state the correct facts, and don't look like a jackass in the process.

Besides.. how long could you have played as a Pikeman.. Mr. Pikeman/BH.

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cant remember, maybe 6-7 months as pikeman (probably you out last me on that one), i have been playing since launch, so unless ur a beta tester you havent been playing longer than me...i have been pike/BH for about a week now but have been pikeman for quite a fair amount of time

yes i did write a rant, no i didnt test it, yes it is very possible that i could be wrong, but still no need to call me ignorant from my original post just cuz i didnt go and actively test it (some may call this ignorant ^_^ im just trying to defend myself somehow), now i WAS ignorant in my second post i will admit that ^_^

Message Edited by Kaukiji on 03-07-2005 05:59 PM

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annelid0 wrote:

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Kaukiji wrote:
i havent done tests but im 95% sure that it is less damaging, i was speed capped w/ both an LVA and a scythe hitting the same people and i was outdamaging myself with my 430 max scythe as opposed to my 900 max LVA....i seriously find that hard to believe that it has been fixed, unless it has been fixed since i dropped swords about a week ago, it would be interesting if somone can actually ask a dev if it has been changed or not

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You don't need to ask a dev. Just test it yourself and you'll see. Or even just believe someone who actually has tested it.

AN LVA IS AFFECTED MUCH MORE DRAMATICALLY BY MITIGATION THAN A SCYTHE IS.

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woops, didnt see this line, ok ok i admit i was wrong about the whole thing

/bow2
/apologize for voicing my opinion
/cry everyone is mean to me cuz im always wrong

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Kaukiji wrote:
ok ok i admit i was wrong about the whole thing

/bow2
/apologize for voicing my opinion
/cry everyone is mean to me cuz im always wrong

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There's no dishonor in being wrong or voicing your opinion.

This 3x myth has plagued this forum for a long time, but it's simply not true anymore. Around publish 7 I think antares found it had changed to 4x, and several others have confirmed it since then. There are still several "resources" out there incorrectely claiming it's 3x, though.