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Thread: Early heads up: Jedi desiring to nerf warcry and intimidate

WNxDoobie
Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:17 am
#27

only thing they need to do is to make it unable for warcry to stack with the CM -50 speed...that was just lame...i (mdoc,mpikes) versed a (Mcm, Mpikes) battle took 1 hour before fellow imps decided to destroy the reb i was dueling.....



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antares_Kauri
Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:55 am
#28



laz_souto wrote:

-Although it takes up 1 of your moves, you seem to forget how many moves are lost by your opponent. Over a 1min period, should you opponent regularly get 16 moves, they will only get 12, 4 moves lost over 1 min for your 1 move lost. Now if the opponent is buffed, IF, then they would normally get 18 moves every min, with this debuff they get 13 moves a min. So by that logic a Buff makes nearly no headway against this move. You get 1 more move if you are buffed.

(2) The length of buffs is longer and can be done outside combat




And that's what it's supposed to do! It's a debuff that is a disadvantage to the one who is attacked with it! Good lord! Find another profession to nerf, Jedi.

antares



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Arcadias
Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:17 am
#29






Gunman21 wrote:

Jedi can whine all they want. War/intimidate are obviously sub-par tanking tools and need enhancements not nerfs.






Good call to be honest.



And to the topic fo Jedi crying for Nerfs:


Plz note that



  • Not every Jedi is using the Forums

  • Some of those Jedi using the Forums are no Nerf-whiner

  • Some Nerf-whiner target their own Prof


But yes, it seems that some Jedi have nothing better to do than spamming the forums with Nerf-calls. Nerf this, Nerf that and while you are at it: Nerf a little bit here.



Since I have a Jedi I would like to add something: Nerf Nerfs!






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Popps
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:59 am
#30

Kinda off topic.. but.. sense there seems to be an 'uber jedi man' here, that thinks cause he has been here sense Sept 03, he must be a god..


I ask that you go watch the Star Wars Films again, or read the books.. You should notice that jedi are often beaten often. Hell, in E3, you see many Jedi killed. Some of them are killed by a small group of storm troopers..




Now on topic.... Intemidate lasts like 2 minutes.. While Warcry lasts all of 20 seconds. (this is at the master pikeman level)


you talk about haveing 18 attacks per minute? What the hell type of weapon are you useing? I use a staff that has a speed of less than 2 seconds. I swing almost 35 times a minute. (all sabers i have seen are less than 2 seconds)


Perhaps you should look at getting a new weapon, if you weapon speed is over 3 seconds.



And yes.. to me you are a noob. You sound like the type of jedi that thinks that everything should be handed to you on a silver platter.. Perhaps you should know, that Jedi are given nothing.. They must earn what they have, and they must give more than they can.


If you are a true Star Wars fan, you would also know this. Nothing is given, all is earned.


As another person stated.. jedi will soon be 1:1 with other classes.. I belive this will be very true.. (should be now)

I personaly think they should perhaps make the defensive scores go up as the jedi gain 'jedi levels' (padawan, knight, master, counsil) As we should all know, the padawan were the weakest (just students), the knights were the grunt workers (guards, etc), the masters were the trainers (teachers), and the cousil were the thinkers (jedi counsil)..


The higher in rank a jedi got, the less they fought, and more pasive, and defensive they became (mentaly and physically). This is no where near true in SWG.. The higher you get, the more you have to fight.. that doesn't make any sense to me. Granted we are also approching the EU, where the jedi change considerable... but we are not there yet.. We are actually in a time where all jedi left were in hideing (there are more jedi (saber wielders) than just Darth Vader, Palpatine, Yoda, Luke Skywalker) but they are in hideing, surviveing the wilds of the differant worlds (much like you see yoda in the movies)




SO... to put it all into perspective... Just because you are jedi, does not mean that you are a God. Jedi died often. If you try to say they didnt', becuase of the movies... well.. they would have been pretty boring if the main characters were killed...



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Jaim_Darkstryder
Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:46 am
#31

You know, it makes me sick to see nerf calls on pikeman of all professions. And sadly some jedi dorks are calling for Ranger nerfs because of traps affecting Krayts... rangers!


Pikeman don't need nerfs, they need boosts. Advanced warcry and intimidate both need to be AOE out to about a 6 meter radius and the duration of warcry needs to be increased to about 45 seconds. Defenses need to be upped a bit too, and pikes need to be able to be crafted with looted parts, not just the damn vibro motors.


Gahd I hate the effects Jedi have had on this game.



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WNxDoobie
Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:09 pm
#32

*psst Jaim_dark* warcry is like 25m radiums LMAO! but yeah i wuldnt mind having intim a AOE..



He is born again! I feel him! The Dragon takes his first breath on the slope of Dragonmount! He is coming! He is coming! Light help us! Light help the world! He lies in the snow and cries like the thunder! He burns like the sun!


Jaim Farstrider
TarqEmeril
Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:05 pm
#33

wacry is great where it's at right now.


what should be nerfed is the stacking of it on top of thyroid rupture, that shouldnt be possible.




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ZalokOnan
Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:13 pm
#34

the distance on warcry is great, but its a shame that its a frontal cone... apparently I can rattle peoples nerves only if they are standing right in front of me... maybe they aught to rename it warbreath.



Moff Zalok Onan
Imperial Governor of Dantooine


Jaim_Darkstryder
Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:14 pm
#35



WNxDoobie wrote:
*psst Jaim_dark* warcry is like 25m radiums LMAO! but yeah i wuldnt mind having intim a AOE..




Warcry is a cone, not an AOE. I don't want to pull everything in front of me into a fight while I can't do a darned thing to those surrounding me. Cones are great for ranged professions that have area type attacks, a melee area attack needs to be a radius.



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GTSC5R
Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:52 pm
#36

Hmmm, interesting.


As far as i know.... pikeman's main role in this game is tanking. I am not a hundred percent but i believe that means we are supposed to be able to take a lot of damage. One might even take a leap of logic and assume that would also mean more longevity in a fight. Our secondary role, I am told, is 'opponent modification'. I could be way off base but i interpret that as being able to debuff our opponents. Since that function is not specifically mentioned in other melee professions i think that means we are supposed to be better at it.



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Giepo
Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:37 am
#37

Is it just me or what? The icons for these two have disapered from my tool bar and command list... What's up with that?? They just removed them and not tell anyone?


thepulse
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:00 pm
#38

ok this is what happened a Mpike whooped and idiot elnoobis jedi and in turn the jedi went on rant on forums for you non jedi dont take it to heart we have jedi crying about nerfing other jedi skills...all that happens is whine,flame,whine, petition,whine,NERF... then flame,then whine... this is the new jedi way dont take it to heart most of the devs dont im sure.. im a jedi and have a Mpike toon as well by the way Mpike Tkm and doc is actually way funner than jedi lol... so dont worry one of these days the chaos might make sense to ya!



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antares_Kauri
Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:05 am
#39

More and more rumblings...it's the MCM BHs that are stirring up most of the Jedi, then they're just ripping on warcry as well though sometimes to a lesser degree (i.e. thinking it should be reduced, but less than a CM nerf would be).

antares



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