Pikeman Archive
Thread: When armor is nerfed, and melee mitigation is gone, pikemen will rule the battlefield
Xosis
Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:13 am
#14
there removing mitigation? oooh my (exceptional) pikes would be unstoppable without meelee mitigation haha
Herutehuti
Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:07 pm
#15
They will downgrade them, just like they are downgrading lightsabers. Not that hard to do, just take the (min-max)/4. Pretty much what they did to sabers, though they have behind the scenes things going to keep them up in damage until the revamp happens. After the revamp, you will see the best lightsabers with about 400 max on them. Taking that into account, legendary weapons will top out at around 500 and ordinary weapons will top out at around 200. 
Heru Kamau
Dunklemaus
Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:22 pm
#16
Gunman21 wrote:
Won't happen.
When the armor balance and mitigation change goes live, so will weapon changes, special changes, speed/ham changes, etc (lets not forget the 75% pvp reduction).
We'll be on even ground with the other professions, not ruling the battlefield.
Lets hope that we're this lucky, but the developers track record on these type of issues doesn't really inspire confidence 
dridernce
Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:54 pm
#17
I have only lost a one on one duel to another pikeman. I think we are severelly under appreciated as it is. I downed a buffed fencer in 30 secs with a mind fire lance tonight, he was pissed 
course then I got owned by a group of 3 but thats another story
TwiZzoT
Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:03 pm
#18
I am not liking the sound of this combat revamp at all. It's like I'm gonna have to relearn the whole damned thing.
Dynastar
Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:59 pm
#19
dridernce wrote:I have only lost a one on one duel to another pikeman. I think we are severelly under appreciated as it is. I downed a buffed fencer in 30 secs with a mind fire lance tonight, he was pissedcourse then I got owned by a group of 3 but thats another story
I think our weapons are underappreciated and our egos inflated.
annelid0
Sat Jun 26, 2004 10:02 am
#20
Just once I'd like to hear a pikeman bragging about how great we are without using DoTs, >1k damage looted weapons, multiple speed attachments, etc.
If the only way you can win a fight is with DoTs, it's the DoT winning the fight. It's not you.
If the only way you can win a fight is with DoTs, it's the DoT winning the fight. It's not you.
Serenius
Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:12 pm
#21
I just beat a defense-stacking fencer/rifleman wearing 90% composite today. I KD'd him and used the action bleed a lot, and followed up with leg hits. It took awhile, but he went down. Guess I was letting the DoTs do all the work then too?
annelid0 wrote:
If the only way you can win a fight is with DoTs, it's the DoT winning the fight. It's not you.
Vincentarasin
Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:10 am
#22
I agree annelido, right now im dabbling doctor, and I can cure off poison/fire.
So far, im yet to be touched by a pikeman' dots(Fencer). What inspired that is being whacked for three types of poisons, so I said screew that and dabbled enough to cure. Unless a pikeman can do 600 damage mind-fires though, I dont think itll effect (atleast most of my server) much, most all of us have more mind then anything else..
Unfortiunatly, I cant touch anything eather, because Bria is the FoTm 46% stun armorserver.
Mavarus
Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:54 am
#23
Master Commando will rule PvP hands down, with all the new stuff they are getting. Just read more and look at the other professions. You all wait, commando will pwn PvP.
annelid0
Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:59 am
#24
Bleeds and weapon DoTs are totally dissimilar issues.
To win your fight you had to KD him and use leg hits in addition to your action bleeds (which are fairly weak). You could not just hit him with a couple bleeds, autoattack, and relax. If you had set him on fire with a high-strength weapon you could take a nap and still kill him.
There's the difference. If people simply augmented their own attacks with DoTs the way you can with bleeds I'd have no problem with that. Stacking five 200+ strength mind poisons on someone is not augmentation, it's letting the DoTs do the work for you.
To win your fight you had to KD him and use leg hits in addition to your action bleeds (which are fairly weak). You could not just hit him with a couple bleeds, autoattack, and relax. If you had set him on fire with a high-strength weapon you could take a nap and still kill him.
There's the difference. If people simply augmented their own attacks with DoTs the way you can with bleeds I'd have no problem with that. Stacking five 200+ strength mind poisons on someone is not augmentation, it's letting the DoTs do the work for you.
ScreaminTomcat
Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:46 pm
#25
keke^^ I better start working pikes soon. Gimme that 900max LVA serenius!
Serenius
Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:13 pm
#26
Until you run into someone who's a doc. Then it gets interesting.
annelid0 wrote:
Bleeds and weapon DoTs are totally dissimilar issues.
To win your fight you had to KD him and use leg hits in addition to your action bleeds (which are fairly weak). You could not just hit him with a couple bleeds, autoattack, and relax. If you had set him on fire with a high-strength weapon you could take a nap and still kill him.
There's the difference. If people simply augmented their own attacks with DoTs the way you can with bleeds I'd have no problem with that. Stacking five 200+ strength mind poisons on someone is not augmentation, it's letting the DoTs do the work for you.