Pikeman Archive

Hey no prob about the typeos I make the all the time, as well, the only reason why I get rid of half of them is it takes me hours to write a paragraph, hehe

I appologize for my last post, I had forgotten that most of people try to pass themselves off like they know everything about the proffession at only expert polearm, yes I am tired and my jokes ARE getting worse, hehe. I have gotten so out of touch with the 0,0,0,0 novice, from being a master for so long, that I was thinking of surrendering and going up the class again.

I just finished another huge post on another thread on this board, here is the link to it:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pikeman&message.id=2994&highlight=#M2994

I can't really remember what I wrote, because I am very tired right now, Im RL, I did my first Triathalon today, with no prior training, and a sour body from lifting weights the day before... hehe, needless to say, I finished, haha. No, I think I was about 130 out of 195 competitors, if anyone cares . So, I think my brain is tired and pumping out poor messages, I should just stop while I am behind.

Khrim.

I think it's fine that you guys have learned to find ways to play with out KD at all, but think of this, should something else be put in place of the KD on the skill tree. Might as well, because for the most part it is useless now. Yes it is true that we are given other skills on the pikeman tree, and it is only right that they player can use whatever combination of those moves to accomodate his/her fighting style. But what is disturbing is that it would appear that the devs have done with a issue that needed tweaking. The best analogy I can think of is that maybe you new modem on your PC, then something goes wrong with it, instead of delving into and finding the true cause of the problem, the devs just ripped the modem out and said there, fixed. And of course those of you who have never used the modem (Sweeps and KD's) say "Hey, I've always gotten along fine without using the modem, learn to use your PC for other things besides online activity."

There seemed to be an apparent balancing issue with sweeps and KD's and per my analogy it seems that the dev's just decided to make it totally ineffective than really delving into the problem and making it work at an acceptable level. For you guys who don't fancy using the sweep that often, (and I've noticed that you are in the minority) Imagine if they did render some of the moves you've become accustomed to Totally ineffective, to the point where you would wonder why is it even on the skill tree?

They should just remove the pretense of even having the sweep on the skill tree and replace it with something that actually works. If my modem doesn't work, at least let me put something else in that slot.

Man it's late, and I'm sleepy, just noticed how many typo's and grammatical errors are in my post, hope it makes sense to you guys.

Your above comment made perfect sense even with the typos lolim frustrated too with this whole thing. To work on a character this long and hard to have it screwed up is more than upsetting.

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X_SilverSurfer wrote:

haha

"98%percent of the pikeman class are in agony over this and your just blowing it off like its nothing."I would like to answer this intwo parts. One,perhaps itseems as though I ampassing it off as nothing isthe fact that I am a master and that I haveno drive to gain exp (hehe, nowhere to go from the top...). .

Khrim...

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There is a prime example of your being biased......I am a master no drive to gain xp...well the rest of us need to gain xp. maybe the kd isnt important to you but it is to me. In pvp a ranged player has the ability to keep distance from a player allsthey have todo is run away, even with the decrease in accuracy you still cant kill em if they put enought distance between you. I believe if you catch a ranged player withing striking distance you should have the ability to keep him on the ground.

Shouldnt a masterpikeman be able to beat a novice ranged player if he got to close. Sure now they can just get up and run away. I dont know where u get its better for pvp. The only kd that should have been nerfed is the pistol kd thatis ridiculously unfair.

Well here's a thought. Every profession has a skill that people like and use, people play pikemen because they can knock other things down. Its a style just like sniping is to a rifleman. Now the pikeman style is gone. On the bright side of things, it only takes a day to become Novice rifleman and then you get to use the T21 !! And yes I did try soloing a blue con that just happened to get up after 5 seconds of knockdown time and I was dead before I could KD again, fun. At least they coulda left them down a little longer like they used to.

Look. We are the ONLY combat profession with out any sort of direct mind attack. Even CM can own the mind. And in PvP, with a basic medic able to heal 300-700 damage with master doctor made Stim Bs, Action damage is pretty worthless so often. So like 2 weeks ago, I loved to go out and own giant Cat caves while my BH friends would incap if the cat got to close. I loved to play the game. Now pikeman has nothing. We had KDs. But now we don't. So yea.

twohand has mind attack, 2hand has health attack, pike has action attack. That aspect is fine imo but the problem lies in we are defensive by combat moves which have high ham costs and don't work half the time because timer is jacked if you use a pet that doesn't even posture or kd.

We don't get the toughness mods to tank and I don't want to be a tank really but higher toughness would be favorable greatly. Also giving us our defense moves back... patiently awaiting kd/posture revert...

Rango, go reread his WHOLE post once more and you will see that he offered to give up master pikeman and start anew.

Common guys, readposts in fullbefore posting?

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Do you people read any of my posts except the one I most currently write? I have said time and again that my oppinion does not matter when it comes to the messages I write. For anyone who calls me biased, think again you.... Ok, I will not go there, though I will say that I am outraged. I only get 5 concerns to bring up each message, and one personal note, which is the only pro to being in this position, and I have never brought up one of my concerns and have used only stuff that had been talked about, like new weapons, or the "jousting" idea. On a further note, on the last message I sent to SOE, I wrote to them that I would be stepping down from the class for various reasons, but the main one was so that the staff at SOE would get a different style of reporting to the DEVs. I have tried to be unbaised when writing letters, and I thought I was entitled to put up my oppinions for the board to read.

Before you flame me (too late), I would ask that you consider some of the facts...

I read everyone's messages, from newbies placing miss posts to the guys talking about a person in RL weilding a 30lb sword (btw to the guys who brought that up, I actually found that funny, hehe, good topic, though not pikemen ). I read the other boards from Architect to Weaponsmith. I read, though not as much anymore the server forums (they just get way to busy). All together that makes 20929 message views. I have spent 3225 minutes online reading those messages (which is over two days, I believe), and have posted 222 times (223 after this post). The majoriy of people who have flamed me have had... let's see... ah.. I see a 6, a 10, a 78...

Ok, maybe some of you might know what you are talking about... But does that give you the right to come and flame someone for making an oppinion? I say no, but what do I know I am just a "BLIND"person whose "issues seem to be bias."

I do not see why my not using kd too much deserves a one star rating, but apparently some one does not approve of my chosen style of play. Perhaps being a master has given me a different outlook to PvE and PvP.

Furthermore,"...the fact is that most of the Brawler class are PVE..." I did not know that. I must have missed the message sent out by SOE stating that most brawler classes were only to be used in such a way. The kd timer actually helps in PVP, though that is not my main style of play. I usually go out into the boonies of planets and look for the hard creatures to solo. Unless I am on Tatooine, then I go for Krayt dragons, lol, though even with tons of people, we barely survive... hehe

"98%percent of the pikeman class are in agony over this and your just blowing it off like its nothing."I would like to answer this intwo parts. One,perhaps itseems as though I ampassing it off as nothing isthe fact that I am a master and that I haveno drive to gain exp (hehe, nowhere to go from the top...). I usually just hunt for sport or to test my abilities amoung fellow players and tough creatures. If I can defeat some bad arse creature without kd, I feel pretty proud, I only wish I could put up trophies on a mantle... The second part is, I did not know that after posting 10 messages you have enough of experience on the board to accuratly take a poll of the board.

In a final note, I would like to say that people should know the facts before posting, and I appologize for I was pretty harsh to a few of you, but I will not sit idilly by while you sour my reputation as correspondent based on a single post.

Khrim...

sorry to everyone for the long post... I got carried away.

Khrim...

first off.. i would like to say my post wasnt intended as a flame, just a psot of utter disbelief at your comments, as i said in that post i think your a great correspondent, which is why what you said came to many of us a shock. secondly.. great your a master brawler and pikeman awesome silver, but many like myself arent and working our way up, and this nerf is getting in the way of that. i dont kd spam, but use it when it is needed especially ing roups.. there have been many times when 2-4 monsters where attackind diff people i came to help them cause tbey asked and i kd'ed all 4 of them for them.. does this make me a kd spammer?? i hope not cause that's what i call using the skill you have to use for the betterment of your group.

i may have a low post count, but i have read the baords past fgew days and im not the only one with these concerns, i dont take poles..but when you have threads going past the 70+ mark with people saying take kd timer off , doesnt take a genius to know many many people dont want this.

and i do have to agree with you on the pvp issue, that's why they added the timer..the problem is they just did a broadstroke without tweaking it, why should it apply to pve? why does the timer start even when you miss? why does it start when you are about to sweep something once but it moves and says you cant attack cause its out of range and the timer starts?, why does it not work for every creature instead of you use it once on one creature and you cant use it on another one for 30 secs?? why did they reduce the time of the kd effect to 5 sec's (more like 1-2 secs if you ask me)? these are the questions that ened to be asked and they ened to be fixed. simpler solution would have been to make any kd posture change attack worht 1 pt of dmg, that way if it does get spammed the person would have to spam it 900+ times at least to even kill anyone with that, pvp issue fixed, and pvm stays the same..cause players would have to use there other moves to take down a creature but the kd is still viable. solutions like that is what should have been done.. not what they did, and if you could pass these questions and my one of many solutions to this timer along would be greatly appreciated.

in closing if you thought my post was flaming you.. im sorry.. but you posted your opinion and i posted mine.. whats the diff between what you said and what i said? no where did i curse or yell or call you names in the post just said i couldnt believe what i was reading from someone who has done an exemploray job and is still doing it. if you took it as a flame then im sorry, but it wasnt an i wont apologize for my post cause i meant everything i said.

sorry for all the typos.. im a horrible typist.

You know folks I'm so upset at this whole kd timer thing that I've been posting my butt all over these forums so sorry if I'm repeating myself but here goes.

Someone argued that sweep was a defensive move and shouldn't be spammed or used as a primary attack vessel. Did I spam sweep before the patch......YOU'RE $#^#$%^& RIGHT I DID. And i did it without shame and I did it well. Did I care that sweep was supposed to be a 'defensive' move. I couldn't care less. The fact was it was a move and it was at my disposal TO USE ANYWAY I SAW FIT. Be it spam the thing, use it in combo with some other moves or as Mr. Surfer chose to use it, not at all. Heres a little analogy for you.

If you and I were to get into a streeet fight and kicking you repeatedly in the testicles would win me the fight would I do that too? Well sir you would be waking up with blue beach balls and I would be long gone.

Perhaps we should start a campaign to go around to all the marksmen who use things like suppression shot and inform them that is a defensive shot and should not be used so you can go to Dantooine and solo a herd of Bols as I have seen some do. In fact why not take all the moves away from everyone and we can all exisist on our basic attacks.

The point is Mr. Surfer I DON'T CARE HOW YOU USED KD the point is most of us used it as the main action in our attack and are now rendered as useful as a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.

Address this issue to SOE as soon as it is possible, it must be changed back or risk losing the pikeman class alltogether or is that what the goal was to begin with?