Pikeman Archive

Thread: all u masters need to look at ur skills before u whine

crawlerzzz
Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:26 am
#14

I'm master tka master brawler and some doc...


Ive soloed a giant kimo before with armor intimidate2 warcry... thyre manageable and my best attack was light piercing knucklers with no bleed


now what this guy probably did was he bled the kimo with the 2 dots for very high amounts then just switchted to tka as tkas have better toughness to stand vs a kimo...


It's possible with tactics pple...


/clap apake


there are problems with the pikeman class worth complaining, I'm helping my friend become a master pikeman and I know all the classes troubles but if u look at it from the goodside, pikeman is managable at master and with good loot items u can be a pretty effective char.







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ApakeFromTarquinas
Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:34 am
#15

check these screenshots out, it gots a pic of my weapon i use too if u wanna see it:


briefcase.yahoo.com/apake_reneic


these are all screenshots i have taken throughout my playing, any questions, send me a message




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antares_Kauri
Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:27 am
#16

The problem people are having with this is that you're post is attempting to tell us that pikemen can solo these kimos, where the fact is that the *only* pike moves you used were the bleeds. You might just as well have used swordsmen bleeds and posted this in the swordsmen board. The way you soloed these has nothing to do with pikemen, and so using this experience as a way to say that pikemen can do this comes off as invalid, as it was the master brawler and tka moves and defenses that allowed you to do this. Still, congrats on being able to do it, however it was done, and nice 17k hit.

antares
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KrazyKilroy
Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:03 am
#17

EXACTLY!



I knew that's what he did the minute he explained his repertoire.



Two pike moves, and everything else was brawler and TKA, where he has better toughness



In other words, stop sellin' cuz' we ain't buyin'!



You never had to go to Pike, you could have just stayed with TKA. But I guess you just wanted that extra bleed damage. and since you're a master, you wouldn't really notice that all of your XP was unarmed, since bleeds don't count towards the XP gains.


As said before, In order for us to be effective, we have to pick up a different skill as well, when others with different skills don't




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antares_Kauri
Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:58 am
#18

Don't get me wrong, if he can do this, it's a very nice feat and deserves commendation, but it's not just being done with pike skills so the original argument is sketchy.

As a side question, why *not* use KD? At the very least, if you KD and then actionhit, the bleed is even greater.

antares
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|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
Bingchudie
Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:54 pm
#19






Dynastar wrote:

I'm still boggled that you tell us to look at our skills, while you're using brawler and TKA skills to do this.


Meh.



Exactly...




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InsomniaRado
Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:39 pm
#20

If the most effective way for you to bea pikeman is for you to go get TKA, then something's wrong. Riddle me this: If you were a TK master, would you pick up Pikeman? Or would you just use TK?


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Stonelegs
Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:09 pm
#21

I demand better grammar and spelling. You have a keyboard in front of you, not a cellphone. Use "you" and "your".



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KolTaggar
Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:36 pm
#22






Stonelegs wrote:
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Viceman
Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:15 pm
#23

lol whatever... i think ur full of it. Ive been dueling TK guys for days all have mor range than me using bare friggin hands!! and i got less with my wespon and there always doing more dmg... i have several master pikeman friends and there good, but u simply cant do much too broken



whinning bother u? stop reading the dang posts and leave already! Dont concern yourself that much if ur just hurting yourself so dearly

IamDaniel
Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:02 am
#24






ApakeFromTarquinas wrote:

check these screenshots out, it gots a pic of my weapon i use too if u wanna see it:


briefcase.yahoo.com/apake_reneic


these are all screenshots i have taken throughout my playing, any questions, send me a message







Hey nice weapon there, I totally believe that you can solo Kimos without a problem with that pike there.


And to the people that said he's not technically soloing with Pikeman since he's using brawler and tka skills. So are you saying that, unless he goes up to a kimo with nothing but master Pikeman(as in, no scout, no medic, no nothing else), he won't be considered "soloing with Pikeman?" This game was made so we have 250 skill points to mix and match the classes. No SINGLE profession can solo kimo. He used intimidate 2 and warcry 2 because it's part of his character. Some TKMs have master Doc also, so they can buff themselves. Does that mean they're not soloing because they were buffed, or that they used a stimpack? What some of you are saying is completely against what this game was designed for. For me personally, if he did it with his 250 skill point, and without another character assisting him, it's SOLOING in my book.


/Simplemon

Cyborg-Shoryuken
Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:19 am
#25

IamDaniel I think you are missing the point, he's pulling in skills from other professions to make up for the inadequicies of the Pikeman class. Pikeman as a stand alone class is poor at best and he is stacking skills from other professions to accomplish task and saying that ther is nothing wrong with pikeman.


I know this because I am doing what he is doing, I'm taking TKA for the toughness and the defense mods, and on top of that the defense mods stack. The bad thing about it, it seems that I was forced to do this because I could not get anything done with pikeman in a stand alone manner. I had planned on picking up a crafting class, and was going to use pikeman as my combat class but found it could not stand on it's own.


Consider this, If I get into a Kung-Fu fight, and my kung-fu sucks but half way throughthe fightI remember I'm a pretty good shooter, and I pull out a gun and shoot my opponent, Yeah, I won the fight, bravo to me, but that still doesn't mean that my Kung-Fu is any good.


And neither is Pikeman.


I'm confident that they will do something to make the class feasible in the future, but as of now, it's broken all to hell.




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Cyborg-Shoryuken
Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:32 am
#26

IamDaniel I think you are missing the point. He is using skills from other classes to make up for the inadequicies of the Pikeman class, and then saying that it is the Pikeman skills that are accomplishing these feats.


I know this because I am doing exactly what he is doing, taking up TKA to take advantage of the stackable defense mods and the toughness in TKA that pikeman doesn't provide, just to make my Pikemas skills feasible.


The bad thing about it is, I feel I was forced into this position. My initial goal was to take up a crafting class while using Pikeman as my combat class, until I realized that I couldn't get much done with Pikeman as a class, so I ended up having to take up other combat skills just to survive.


Every class should have some usefulness in itself.


Consider this, If I was to get into a Kung-Fu fight fight but my Kung-Fu sucks, so half way through the fight I remember that I'm a pretty good shooter and pull out a gun and shoot my opponent. Yeah, sure, I won the fight, hurray for me, but it doesn't mean my Kung-Fu isany good.


And neither is Pikeman.


I am confident that the will make the class feasible in itself one day, but as of now, the class is broken all to hell.




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