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Thread: Poll:How many Pikemans/Pikewomens don't use DoT's?

HurriwanShinobi
Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:31 pm
#14

if armour wasnt 90% to our damage types i am sure people would use dots less



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riseabove
Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:09 pm
#15






FicoFeafip wrote:

Want to hear something truly sad? Someone on scylla (who will not be named) constantly wins in duels and brags about it. Her template: Master Doctor/Some Fencer (mostly just the CoB line)/Speed and Accuracy line of pikeman. She has one, and only one tactic, she runs up to you and lays on a 313 points mind fire on you with pike, then she switches to a fencer weapon, hits CoB and runs and hides (usually playing hide and seek in banks where she can always stay out of range) while her DoT kills you. She does this to EVERYONE and it works. She has doctoronly because it helps her "hiding strategy" when she herself is immune to DoTs due to cures. No one without Doctor themselves stands a chance against her simply because of her Mind fire....Welcome to PvP in SWG


Nite Nova

Ex-SWG player


P.S. - She only would duel me on Tatooine....I wonder why....*cough*no water*cough*






Yeah that's pretty sad...I prob use more dots than most, but 90% of the time they're action dots. I do like to give people a fighting chance, and if it's a duel the first thing I ask is dot or no dot, and either or I'm still gonna duel. If I were to fight this person I'd kd them, pikes get kd'd easily. I'd also take a dbl buff vercuppti and a muon and the standard 2 brandy, if 6k mind can't do it, I dunno what would, after the kd just kite em with a rifle, no need to give a person like this a chance in hell of getting near you. Also if you've got a 313 mind fire and will only duel on tatooine, you've just admitted you are teh suck right there....



Jeht Eno-Jedi
AelricMistrider
Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:49 am
#16

I'll use a DoT weapon only if I get a DoT used on me; which, given the nature of PvP in SWG, happens all the time. So, mind fire first, mind poison second, switch to power hammer or scythe and head hit until they are down.

I normally don't like using DoT weapons, but if I get one applied to me, I'll be damned if I won't use one in return.




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ZuluShin
Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:06 am
#17






annelid0 wrote:




ZuluShin wrote:


actually i didn't mention exploit or any reference irl.you just blew it out of proportion.plz read my post very carefullly again.





The blowing it out of proportion was sort of the point, reductio ad absurdum. You don't support exploiting or crushing old ladies despite being able to, why support using DoTs just because you're able to?

The same thing happens in-game with anything some people consider "wrong", special attacks included. Back when you could spam KD after KD without a timer there were people who wouldn't do it, despite it being a guaranteed win. Just having an ability doesn't mean you have to (or even should) use it.



you got a valid point but you have to be able to see my point of it.what i'm trying to say is that if it was the only way to win why not use it?def stacker vs. def stacker..the one that used a DoT wins the dual....that probably didn't make sense but i just got home and i'm kinda tipsy and it's 2:04am haha

tehedin
Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:04 am
#18

I don't use dots and I do just fine in PvP against stackers, TKM's, etc


Plus Im a MWS


You must be doing something wrong



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bsenff
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:34 am
#19



GreatReorx wrote:
i have more dots then a kid in puberty





Hear, Hear!

I have like 30 some odd DOT lances in mmy inventory... half of which Ive looted. I dont/cant use the majority ofthem, as Ive got like 8 action poisons, 4 action fires, 4 infinite use mind poisons... So I only use like 4-5 lances. Oh, and mah duel NSELs.



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Ta10c
Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:56 am
#20

genrally in pvp i stick with rifles, but if i see a jedi i know i have no chance ranged, so i pike, and i tend to stick some dots and spam area KD and spin2 with my high damage LVA, then when my health gets low i run of and use the rifle dizzy move (cant rember what its called) and then switch back to my high damage LVA and spam lunge 2......but usally the lag and the 7 other jedi kill me before i even equip my LVA.


pikes i use in PvE waaay to much...but if i want to live against jediDOTs rall i can do to hurt them



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PhiGon
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:21 am
#21

I don't use DOTS because I don't PVP but I have some unlimited use 300 mind poisons on my wall for decoration.

I never have dot weapons on me - I have a feeling they will soon be the way of the dodo bird.



Otoch Nahma
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BillS21
Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:43 am
#22






tehedin wrote:

I don't use dots and I do just fine in PvP against stackers, TKM's, etc


Plus Im a MWS


You must be doing something wrong






You must fight against some pretty skill-less people. Even with my 1800 max dmg LVA, I do maybe....maybe....50-150 per swing against a TKM. A TKM/Doc would laugh as I try to damage their health/action pools. Not to mention any Fencer/Doc on a state-heal / CoB macro, will laugh as you keep trying to stick intimidate on them just so you can hit them.


For high-end PvP against a melee person who knows what they are doing, you need to use DoTs to be successful. This is not even including group PvP where there will be abundant healers. When I PvP with my guild, I almost exclusively use my mind fires unless I can single out one person.



Amoc Fifio
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cadof
Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:47 am
#23






tehedin wrote:

I don't use dots and I do just fine in PvP against stackers, TKM's, etc


Plus Im a MWS


You must be doing something wrong




Then you must use a looted 800 +LVA witch is the same in my book thay are both looted . Or you fighting noods.

Message Edited by cadof on 08-26-2004 10:49 AM

trylle
Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:29 am
#24

I'm master pike/master brawler and I have an 800 damage LVA (950 pup'ed for pvp) which does as mentioned earlier, 30-50 or so damage or 100-200 to unarmored people. Let alone if I can even hit them in the first place (dodge stackers I can hit maybe 1/3 times if they are intimidated), while they hit me for a constant 2-300 mind damage. ".. but you block it!" doesn't have much of an effect other than delaying your death.
I don't use dot's in pvp much unless I have a vendetta, as they generate so much whining and arguing that it takes the fun out of it, I was even reported to csr once for mind poisoning a tkm/fencer because the only way (according to him) for a pikeman to beat him was to cheat and exploit. Not that I take it personally, but I like it when people are good sports after duels and don't take it so seriously.
Don't get me started on the states. I'm so easy to kd/dizzy that people kd me first and then dizzy me as I'm falling. On occasion when I manage to dizzy/kd someone else they seem to be able to stand anyway.


Conclusion, I don't pvp much
Djena
Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:47 pm
#25

I don't use DOT's, I'm a roleplayer and my character doesn't believe that poison or disease are honorable means in combat. If I would ever get a *fire lance I might use it, there is nothingwrong with putting people on fire ,but I'm not going out of my way to get the millions required to buy one or hunting thousands of nightsisters to loot one.


I don't like the fact that DOT's are often an easy win, you can whine about TKM and fencers winningin PvP but at least a TKM or fencerstill needs someskill to win (the non-FOTM TKM's that know more than 3 buttons of course, I'm not talking about the KD/dizzy + headhit ones, since Thakitillo became so popular they are all whining that TKM is useless ). A DOT fights the fight for you, you don't need to do anything just like in that example someone before megave.



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Dynastar
Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:11 pm
#26

I'd trade every damn DOT I have for the removal of mitigation and the 75% PvP reduction.



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