Pikeman Archive
Thread: Because of the FOTM and fear of what it will do to pikeman...
film
Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:46 am
#14
pikeman is not FOTM, that was about 3 months ago,the flavor ofthis month in my opinion happens to be jedi. btw dots are not ruining pvp. Nor are they ruining this proffesion. At the most, they are undermining some of the major fixes need for pikeman.
XwingRogue3
Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:16 am
#15
It seems like every profession is going after the DOT weapons. I wonder what brilliant DEV came up with DoT weapons? They probably have a "DEV of the month" award at swg's office for the DEV who comes up with the dumbest idea to irritate all galaxy players.
capzyL
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:40 am
#16
Dot:s have nothing to do with ruinung PvP at all, the 90% armour and mitigation is destroying pvp, its what made all the people go for dots, its the only really effective way of hurting people in pvpif you arent a jedi.
Fix the combat dmg and dots wont be nearly as important, because you will be able to dish out dmg in other ways.
MilleniX
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:50 am
#17
Dots either have to be nerfed, and make battles last forever. Or armor and/or buffs have to be nerfed to make battles quicker but less reliant on dots to do damage. A profession should be able to outdamage a dot...
Henpojk
Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:16 pm
#18
Sold my2 mind pikes for 52 mil, just holding on to my dmg stick now. Way more fun..
drathon-3
Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:41 pm
#19
Henpojk wrote:
Sold my2 mind pikes for 52 mil, just holding on to my dmg stick now. Way more fun..
/agree dots are overrated 
oh, gosh i am a fire-starter today 
stalf89
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:46 pm
#20
film wrote:pikeman is not FOTM, that was about 3 months ago, the flavor of this month in my opinion happens to be jedi. btw dots are not ruining pvp. Nor are they ruining this proffesion. At the most, they are undermining some of the major fixes need for pikeman.
Which is why i dropped pikeman now. Fixes will be ignored because DOTs make up for what we lack and its overlooked. I like being able to damage people with a weapon over a dot, and Im a great healer. Fencer/doc is much more fun Ive been playing for a week or so now.
I have the dot's for duels (mind fire stone knives) but theyre harder to find, and only used when I need to, they arent NECESSARY.
Gordo-da-Hutt
Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:38 am
#21
Maybe its just me, but I don't really see how you can lump Jedi into the same catagory as Swordsman due to how long it takes to grind. In the time it takes to complete a Jedi template the FOTM can change several times. Not to mention, there was always a ton of people who wanted Jedi, its just that alot more got it than what was originally intended....but I blame the devs for that.
MilleniX wrote:
film wrote:
pikeman is not FOTM, that was about 3 months ago,the flavor ofthis month in my opinion happens to be jedi. btw dots are not ruining pvp. Nor are they ruining this proffesion. At the most, they are undermining some of the major fixes need for pikeman.
Jedi and Swordsman on the tempest server are the FOTM
Message Edited by Gordo-da-Hutt on 12-06-2004 03:03 PM
capzyL
Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:20 am
#22
some of you guys are naive, you really think SOE will look at pikeman and say, hey, they pretty much suck technicaly vs the other melee porfessions bu they got their dots, lets change evryone else.
Pikeman if played right is a great strategic profession, we have the two most important states (stun and dizzy) in one attack, and we have some of the best kds and posture changers in the game. We dont have any good crafted weapons, but on the other hand, we are the only profession where 1k+ dmg medium armour pircing weapons isent extreamly rare. If combat was fixed so we could "beat" dmg on any other profession (goes for them vs us as well thoug) the only thing i would ask for is to remove the kd from hit3, since i cant use it on a kd:ed foe, and maybe give us a equalent dmg multiplyer on the same attack. Other then that, im pretty pleased, its a very "personal" profession"
Cheers
Adefo-Oami
Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:28 pm
#23
I personally like the PvE side of pikeman 
but yes, DOTs are practically our only choice in PvP unless you have an uber high damage LVA. Someone on our server has a 2k max dmg one.
but yes, DOTs are practically our only choice in PvP unless you have an uber high damage LVA. Someone on our server has a 2k max dmg one.
stalf89
Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:31 pm
#24
I had a high dmg lva and all the dots I already said, I just the problems (like posture down in hit3) are being ignored because people are happy about the dots.
I'll come back it someday maybe, but fencer is alot more fun and a good change.
CHEERS
Adefo-Oami
Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:50 pm
#25
I agree, hit 3 should not be posture change. That or posture change (down) should not bring them up...
Torael
Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:15 pm
#26
I figure I'll just point out that the damage modifier on hit3 is exactly the same as the damage modifier on Spin2 and leghit3 - that is, 3x. Leghit3 has the added bonus of REAAAAAALLY messing up anyone who's wearing the four-piece armor suit (just the gloves/boots/chesplate/helmet) *and* some sort of skirt (usually a refined skirt, when I see it.) I've hit people in this situation for well over 600 damage in PvP, and even Melee stackers find themselves taking pretty heavy damage.
<Edit> Area2 is also a 2.5x modifier, if you want another option...I tend to use this onein PvP vs Jedi because of its stun+dizzy.
Message Edited by Torael on 12-07-2004 07:19 PM