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Thread: ineresting duels with jedi recently

Malinko_Oknilam
Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:34 am
#14






Shakaeq wrote:





Malinko_Oknilam wrote:

Aw damn dude, I was hoping that it was your victory =/ .... I've seen Pikeman pwn Jedi without taking barely any damage. (No DoT's mind you)






exactly. I used to myself. something changed is why I posted this question. The numbers dont add up like they used to.I could deal jedi 300-500 dmg a sec and now am reduced to nil(was intimidated some of the time).


I am well over cap on block(200) and melee defense(140) mind you, but it mattered little.




Two words: Combat Balance. =/




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TaimMirror
Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:37 am
#15

Interesting...slightly disturbing too. Not sure what to make of that. Definetly something to look into.



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DML6589
Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:58 am
#16

Sorry to go off topic but how do you like that template in non Jedi pvp, I was considering doing that myself!



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Malinko_Oknilam
Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:47 am
#17






Shakaeq wrote:

talked to the second jedi. He used force intimidate2 which supposedly is a 66% reduction! he was also on synthsteak. Apparently also the intim sign doesnt always appear next to your bar when they hit you with that attack. /ponder hmmph. Will need to do more testing. /wrench; /wrench






Jedis like to exploit a lot.



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Raniok_Tasifer
Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:41 pm
#18

Shakaeq-

Heh.. for one if you're going to try to teachmock myliteracy.. then please make sure tp get my name correct next time.. *ahem* Now.. I've been training against Jedi, and training them.. for the past... 8 months? That's sad, but meh. I know how Jedi work, and I know how to kill them.. It's all I do. So.. thier ability to heal states is nothing, hah. They always stay stated when I fight them.. *ahem*


Also.. you're ignorance is.. acceptable.. but this is what I was responding to.


"Something has changed. I went through combat spam and I never hit either for over 172 dmg! Many hits were from 40-150 range."- that is what you said..


You responded (to my post) with the fact that you kept the Jedi intimidated as much as possible. If you were quite familiar with the Combat System, you wouldn't of complained about how they can heal states easy and/or all at once, hah.. regardless, you only re-stated what I obviously had already read..


BTW, thier ForceIntim2 is the same, hah. It's just an AoE (32 m if I remember correctly).. and has far better accuracy than ForceIntim1 and a better duration. *ahem*


Now you should re-read the comments of my post. I stated that, if YOU were intimidated and stunned then, you get a massive Damage Reduction.. and we're not counting SynthSteak and/or ForceArmor1-2 (That the Jedi could be using).. heh. Anyways.. I didn't speak to you like a noob, I was speaking humbly - supportively. I didn't down talk you in at all.. but you responded all rash and hostile (BTW The intim icon not appearing either means, it didn't hit or your UI is bugged).. heh. pfft.. *ninja vanish*



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Malinko_Oknilam
Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:29 pm
#19






Raniok_Tasifer wrote:

Shakaeq-

Heh.. for one if you're going to try to teachmock myliteracy.. then please make sure tp get my name correct next time.. *ahem* Now.. I've been training against Jedi, and training them.. for the past... 8 months? That's sad, but meh. I know how Jedi work, and I know how to kill them.. It's all I do. So.. thier ability to heal states is nothing, hah. They always stay stated when I fight them..
*ahem*


Also.. you're ignorance is.. acceptable.. but this is what I was responding to.


"Something has changed. I went through combat spam and I never hit either for over 172 dmg! Many hits were from 40-150 range."- that is what you said..


You responded (to my post) with the fact that you kept the Jedi intimidated as much as possible. If you were quite familiar with the Combat System, you wouldn't of complained about how they can heal states easy and/or all at once, hah.. regardless, you only re-stated what I obviously had already read..


BTW, thier ForceIntim2 is the same, hah. It's just an AoE (32 m if I remember correctly).. and has far better accuracy than ForceIntim1 and a better duration. *ahem*


Now you should re-read the comments of my post. I stated that, if YOU were intimidated and stunned then, you get a massive Damage Reduction.. and we're not counting SynthSteak and/or ForceArmor1-2 (That the Jedi could be using).. heh. Anyways.. I didn't speak to you like a noob, I was speaking humbly - supportively. I didn't down talk you in at all.. but you responded all rash and hostile (BTW The intim icon not appearing either means, it didn't hit or your UI is bugged).. heh. pfft.. *ninja vanish*




Whatever it is, you need to stay off it, its messing with your throat.




Malinko ~ Oknilam
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S.....\.. Who's your daddy?.../....P
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He told me you killed him....\....W..../... .....No, I, am your father.
Raniok_Tasifer
Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:03 am
#20

Shakaeq.. if you were intimidated and stunned, that'sa massive Damage reduction... pay attention to your states next time, heh.


Keep the Jedi intim/stun and its damage is reduced just the same.. *shrugs.. vanishes*



-- Raniok Tasifer |Master of two forms of Stick Fighting - shock trooper| :: blood to Phear :: |Master Sharpshooter - Field Commander| Koinar Tasifer -- Rrin Mentat |Master Droid Engineer|
-- morgukai -- silver fox of ashiia --
--
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..letting slip the bonds of control, leaving aside conscious thought, answering only the surge of his passion and his joy, he finds power undreamed of.. when the opponent expands, I contract, when he contracts, I expand, and when there is an opportunity, I do not hit--it hits all by itself.
Shakaeq
Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:23 am
#21






Raniok_Tasifer wrote:

Shakaeq.. if you were intimidated and stunned, that'sa massive Damage reduction... pay attention to your states next time, heh.


Keep the Jedi intim/stun and its damage is reduced just the same.. *shrugs.. vanishes*







Think you need to read into the details of my posts Ranoik. In them I stated I intimidated as much a feasible. The jedis cleared states(which if you did not know includesintimidate, dizzy, and stun!)almost imediately and can do it lying down. I also stated that FORCE intimidate2 is a 66% damage reduction not 50% like our intimidate is. Again I also said that the intimidate sign that you would normally see doesnt always appear like it should. Don't speak to me like I am some kind of noob to this. Been playing since week one like yourself. Got my first slot in Jan and a second last month.(not saying that means everything by any means, but I am pretty well educated on the combat system)



Maybe next time just stay vanished. Or at least read the whole post.




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Malinko_Oknilam
Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:35 am
#22






Kreagan wrote:





jrt wrote:
Nice yea i was at geo a BH and jedi fightig out side i went out had to log but i wanted to watch BH was doing good than he got KD and i was healing supid jedi came for me next because of TEF so he had a one handed saber and would only use head hit but i got soem food n an he an with jedi speed to soem river followed on speeder he blew it up and i was fighting for 10 min than got downer i was playing with him usen Dot for fun bad ones than i ran toviver to get downer down by than he had goten some friends from the geo cave to come help i used area kd and dizy kd all 3 killed both swords with fencer than te jedi ran followed was board of it so kd got 1k of wounds with dots and log in a lake where he ouldn attak lol oo im MASTER FENCER MASTER PIKE AND MASTER BRAWLER hehe it was a fun fight aybe i sould havekilled the jedi





please use sentences





ROFLMAO



Malinko ~ Oknilam
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S.....\.. Who's your daddy?.../....P
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He told me you killed him....\....W..../... .....No, I, am your father.
Raniok_Tasifer
Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:19 pm
#23


I have seen plenty of people go down to knights. Have you ever seen someone (Non Jedi)hold 2 knights in place in PVP and then have them (The knights)run?


To do it without DoTs..? Simply.. out damage them.. also I have no medic in my template. I've trained people in how to fight Jedi, and I've trained Jedi in how to fight. But you.. go learn some humility.


A Knightonly hasa bit more force, a shiney robe, a fancy title and has to be constantly overt.. means nothing.



-- Raniok Tasifer |Master of two forms of Stick Fighting - shock trooper| :: blood to Phear :: |Master Sharpshooter - Field Commander| Koinar Tasifer -- Rrin Mentat |Master Droid Engineer|
-- morgukai -- silver fox of ashiia --
--
--------------------
..letting slip the bonds of control, leaving aside conscious thought, answering only the surge of his passion and his joy, he finds power undreamed of.. when the opponent expands, I contract, when he contracts, I expand, and when there is an opportunity, I do not hit--it hits all by itself.
Shakaeq
Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:39 pm
#24






Raniok_Tasifer wrote:


I have seen plenty of people go down to knights. Have you ever seen someone (Non Jedi)hold 2 knights in place in PVP and then have them (The knights)run?


To do it without DoTs..? Simply.. out damage them.. also I have no medic in my template. I've trained people in how to fight Jedi, and I've trained Jedi in how to fight. But you.. go learn some humility.


A Knightonly hasa bit more force, a shiney robe, a fancy title and has to be constantly overt.. means nothing.






With statements like that sir, it is you who may need to learn humility.


Af far as reffering to knights and not just jedi, I did it because generally a jedi gains knight status to pvp and because his or her template is finished.


Wish you could character copy your toon over to Sunrunner so we could all see your might.


With jedi there is a fine line between the good ones and the bad ones. Course you must already know that since you teach them.


This is my last response post unless you have something constructive to add reguarding actual technique fighting jedi templates and not just comments like outdamaging them. Many people outdamage a jedi, but the majority cannot heal like one. Saying you can hold two nights and make then run means nothing, each scenario can be different. Not saying you or whomever could not do it, just reminding of the fact.



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Shakaeq
Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:43 am
#25






Raniok_Tasifer wrote:

Shakaeq-

Heh.. for one if you're going to try to teachmock myliteracy.Never mocked you. then please make sure tp get my name correct next time.. *ahem* Now.. I've been training against Jedi, and training them.. for the past... 8 months?Jedi 8 mon ago were not at all the same That's sad, but meh. I know how Jedi work, and I know how to kill them.. It's all I do.The entire time you play? wow, nothing else? So.. thier ability to heal states is nothing, hah. They always stay stated when I fight them.. *ahem*
Not possible 100% of them time. You have delays in missing, state not hitting and intim being resisted


Also.. you're ignorance is.. acceptable.. but this is what I was responding to.


"Something has changed. I went through combat spam and I never hit either for over 172 dmg! Many hits were from 40-150 range."- that is what you said.. I also explained about intim and sythsteak


You responded (to my post) with the fact that you kept the Jedi intimidated as much as possible. If you were quite familiar with the Combat System, you wouldn't of complained about how they can heal states easy and/or all at once, hah.Every 4 secs they can, and for little force cost. regardless, you only re-stated what I obviously had already read..


BTW, thier ForceIntim2 is the same, hah.Not from what I and others have tested.It's just an AoE (32 m if I remember correctly).. and has far better accuracy than ForceIntim1 and a better duration. *ahem*Knew that too, thanks


Now you should re-read the comments of my post. I stated that, if YOU were intimidated and stunned then, you get a massive Damage Reduction.I posted this too. and we're not counting SynthSteakalready posted I didand/or ForceArmor1-2No of them had it and most Sunrunner jedi pvprs dont(That the Jedi could be using).. heh. Anyways.. I didn't speak to you like a noob, I was speaking humbly - supportively. I didn't down talk you in at all.. but you responded all rash and hostile (BTW The intim icon not appearing either means, it didn't hit or your UI is bugged).I stated this. heh. pfft.. *ninja vanish*< There is no move in SWG called that heh..meh..pfft...whatever it is you do constantly






Since you kill jedi so often solo. Could you please explain how you would typically do it without DOTS? Against a knight level jedi.


IE weapon(s) stats, moves, foods, etc. Don't be shy.


I have witnessed some of our top pvp non jedi go down to Sunrunner knights one on one in duels many times.

Message Edited by Shakaeq on 10-28-2004 02:45 PM



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TheSerinator
Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:22 am
#26

You think it's bad trying to keep regular Jedi stated up?


Try going against a Master Enhancer Jedi Council member. Resist states is boosted through the roof at that level.





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