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Thread: New patch notes! Yea we get nothing!

antares_Kauri
Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:07 pm
#14

Heavy cleaver is still in currently.



antares
master pikeman





|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
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SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
Gunman21
Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:39 am
#15

I have no sympathy for the Jedi right now.


You have problems? great. You've got 2 specialized publishes comming your way. Enjoy.


Our problems have been around a lot longer than players have had jedi, and they're not nearly as complicated as,say, changing the way players obtain jedi.




Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors

Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

Arhagellos
Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:58 am
#16

I've been struggling to figure out how DEVs think but God my witness they're as weird and fickle as women... (no offence meant to the few women with a sense of reason)


On one hand you have numerous problems that requirea moderate, atthe worst, intervention to fix. You have tens of people screaming for help and those people have been screaming for months without being heard. You have professions that are broken and continue being broken because there's simply no interest in fixing them.


On the other hand you have one profession which might be broken, I am no Jedi hence I have little to comment on though I have no sympathy for holo grinders complaining, and you plan an entire rehaul of the profession not just tinkering with a number here or there, redoing it from scratch, changing the current system through which to attain the profession and nulling the currently lame system of Holocrons.


So among those two things, one being much much easier than the other, the DEVs decide to go for the one profession with the fewer people playing it instead of taking care of the worries of hundreds of people. Is there a bigger picture here? Am I damned blind that I can't see it? Is there any sign of reason in those decisions or are the DEVs just following their grand vision ignoring the pleas of the playerbase. If its the latter, I left a MUD I played for free because of it I am more than ready to dump something I pay to play when I don't see my voice or the voice of the Correspondant, who acts in collective of all those he represents, heard.


This Publish has to be the lowest and most single profession centered Publish I've ever seen and trully I doubt we'll ever see a "Pikemen Revisited" Publish. Just for once I'd like those that are supposed to be running the game stay true to what they say and not change focus every ten minutes, its frustrating and the lack of stability is to say the least worrying.


I'll crawl back to the special place the DEVs have for Pikemen now, you know that white spherical room thats air sealed so we don't get heard out of it...





Nerelith Vel'Et'Aril
Master Pikeman
Sentinel of Horus

Jereck
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:36 am
#17

Yes it is odd that they wish to revamp jedi, a prof that has at most 100 people. While several other classes are in terrible need of help. I can understand Jedi having its problems, they may even be significant. But the one account the devs know they have dialed in are those who have unlocked the FS character. They have no reason to put off a "combat revamp." Which really really really reallly ( i could go on forever) screwed CH. After they jacked CH they're like " oh well, we have bigger issues, CH must suffer for the good of the jedi." CH right now needs some love, some real love too. What did they get? Oh the stupid cu pa won't be so twitchy now when you're riding it.... Like anyone actually uses a mount anymore, let alone a cu pa.


But anyway, more broken pormises, more half-truths, and outright lies. They need to postpone SE and fix the basic game, then they can come up with some way to siphon off more of our money. Also it wouldn't have been so hard to just change a few values for pikeman and also alter weapon schematics to improve range modifiers and possibly damage.



Karras - Lowca
SWG - We know drama
Kasteu
Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:05 am
#18

Are the combat fixes being put off until the mini-publish, like the ID enhancements are?
antares_Kauri
Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:46 am
#19

There are much more Jedi than 100, probably closer to 2000+. And the big reason why Jedi get 2 dedicated publishes is because so many people are only trying to be Jedi (less now that they are gaining a reputation as the whiniest, most exploiting group in the game), and Lucas has been pushing Jedi as a main part of the game...Jedi = $$$, unfortunately.


/hi5 gunman for both your comments.


antares

master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
atimes
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:42 am
#20






antares_Kauri wrote:

There are much more Jedi than 100, probably closer to 2000+. And the big reason why Jedi get 2 dedicated publishes is because so many people are only trying to be Jedi (less now that they are gaining a reputation as the whiniest, most exploiting group in the game), and Lucas has been pushing Jedi as a main part of the game...Jedi = $$$, unfortunately.


/hi5 gunman for both your comments.


antares

master pikeman







That is the reason I'm actually for the Jedi revamp. Anything that changes the absolute idiotic current system that has produced so many powergaming exploting whiners I'm all for. Anyone else think the economy is in ruins from holocrons?


Fix that ASAP above all else. There should only be a few Jedi per server. . . not guilds with 5 and 10 of them.

atimes
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:44 am
#21

Also CLab chill out. Everyone is complaining because no one got anything except DE's. I'm not a DE but I know that they have been totally neglected since launch. While our fixes are few they are more than them. The combat balance is where all combat profs will get their fixes and the DE's needed this.


They've eliminated pet wars now maybe we can get some more droids in the game.


As a doc I'm looking forward to the maintenence droids and the surveying droids.

antares_Kauri
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:55 am
#22

On Kauri, there are a couple of guilds that are primarliy if not entirely Jedi, and they've placed their own cities a time or two. I see them sitting/standing around starports with tags on every now and then. They do it for the attention (except the ones who are 4444 guardians, they can handle themselves more than well enough) but no one really oohs and aaahs anymore. One day I went to bloodfin to mess around with an alt character and saw 4 Jedi in the span of an hour and a half in Bestine alone. Uncommon event, I'm sure, but indicative.

I'm glad they added these new droids, I think droids will have some usefulness to them now, and I'm all for that. I do wish they had added some combat stuff in there, though. At leas the armor hole is supposedly fixed yet again, NS will use the force again (no more TK Elders), and the Corvette looks extremely promising. Actually, isn't the 'vette scheduled to go live today?


antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
PadreBook
Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:03 am
#23



Gunman21 wrote:
I have no sympathy for the Jedi right now.
You have problems? great. You've got 2 specialized publishes comming your way. Enjoy.
Our problems have been around a lot longer than players have had jedi, and they're not nearly as complicated as,say, changing the way players obtain jedi.





Can we change our tactics to asking for us to be balanced with Swordsman--either they get nerfed to our level or we are raised to their level. Currently they perform the game design function that our profession is intended to fill in addition to their own game design function.

As for Jedi, there are far more Jedi than dedicated Pikemen, so in that regard we are outnumbered. Why because we have every crap thing you can imagine, including Block which allows half damage. That is far more significant that people seem to grasp. In particular with high level content dodging/counterattacking a 5k hit equals no damage, blocking the same equals a 2.5k hit and that's on a success, now repeat. What is hard to grasp about that. Swordsman has a better weapon both by damage type and damage level (and ap2)combined with higher damage multipliers, including 3 area attacks with a 3.0x multiplier and headhit2 does 3.5x too. Yeah that's right, the Devs play Swordsmen not Pikemen.

Padre
PadreBook
Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:06 am
#24



antares_Kauri wrote:
There are much more Jedi than 100, probably closer to 2000+. And the big reason why Jedi get 2 dedicated publishes is because so many people are only trying to be Jedi (less now that they are gaining a reputation as the whiniest, most exploiting group in the game), and Lucas has been pushing Jedi as a main part of the game...Jedi = $$$, unfortunately.
/hi5 gunman for both your comments.
antares
master pikeman





Note, whiniest profession in the game is Bounty Hunter ('I want to grief Players/Jedi, make them lay down and die for me, preferably in front of my house, so I don't have to go far').

Padre
antares_Kauri
Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:26 am
#25

Padre, no calls for swordsmen nerfs. Seriously, that's not necessary.

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
CLab2021
Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:39 am
#26






atimes wrote:

Also CLab chill out. Everyone is complaining because no one got anything except DE's. I'm not a DE but I know that they have been totally neglected since launch. While our fixes are few they are more than them. The combat balance is where all combat profs will get their fixes and the DE's needed this.


They've eliminated pet wars now maybe we can get some more droids in the game.


As a doc I'm looking forward to the maintenence droids and the surveying droids.






No I will not chill out...(I didnt think I was out of control anyway)...the DE fix is lame those droids are crap...and Combat Balance....pfft come on man..wise up..


This is the crappyiest publish yet..pile of crap yes indeed..SOE has failed yet agian...





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