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*sigh* if you were smart enough to figure out the tkm/master pikes/4/0/0/0 doctor....why come here to the forums and start telling everyone?? (before the respec is over even!!!!!!!) do you WANT everyone to be the same template as us? Let them think for themselves...it isnt the only thing out there...but now those that cant figure a decent one will just respec with this and be happy...

If they respec for the FOTM, they will still suffer and lose. They still need to learn how to use the template and all the associated skills, there is no i win button on that template, it still requires thought and work.

If they cant figure that part out, well, then they are in fact doomed.

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Ciao wrote:

Yeah, Im thinking Doc 4000 is teh win!!

I really would like to take the armor break and crit attack in Swords

or the Snare and blind in Fencer but......

If you cant handle the massive damage from a jedi you will die ALL THE TIME, same goes for the root and shoot crowd.

I would really rather use the food buff to reduce the stim D timer to 30 secs but I dont think thats enough.

I did wonder about the Doc 0040 template so you can cure diseases and what not but I suppose you could just heal the damage those dots do and not worry.

So, I think Doc 4000 is key to any effective long lasting build, you might not Hit the hardest or have nice specials butyou will survive the longest and in the end outlast your opponent without doc.

If you have doubts, look how long jedi last in fights with their healing!!!!!

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see thats why im reluctant to take 4-0-0-0 doc armour break is so damn handy to have, also by droping m.brawler and some of swordsman im loosing about 100 ranged and melee defence.

Message Edited by b_ming on 05-18-2005 01:12 PM

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GarronDarkweaver wrote:

/agree

The same posted asked this question on the tkm boards also i belive, where he also asked why it is he cant survive against ranged players using root to keep him at bay.

The answer is simple, you dont have enough healing ability to keep you alive.

I have honestly not lost one duel in over 30 since i respecced to my current template which includes some doctor healing abilities and im all melee other than those. Ive fought every non jedi profession combo just about, without a single loss and am on a 50/50 win/loose with jedi knights. I can assure you that without my heals this would bea very very very very different story in 50% of those battles at least.

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/deepbow to farstars pikey master - he's even converted me !!

tried TKM/pikeman with 4-0-0-0 doc and i not to keen on it the lack of speed armour break and critical hit are to big of a loss for me, i do like the heals but with the reduced defences and lack of offence i seem to do worse in duel's etc with out m.brawler and some swordsman

Then go your old route...this template (like most) rocks only if it suits your play style. If you don't like it, don't keep it. If you feel more powerful another way, it would only make more sense to go the way you feel comfortable and powerful. I was doubtful about giving up all that defense but I've always been a doc so I know how to play it. I figure since I've played it this long, might as well have it in my new template.

After doing some testing for 3 hours with the addition of 4000 Doctor, im very impressed with the results...coming from a former TKM/Doc, the style is almost similar....and i play it primarily from TKM

It wastough giving up Armobreak & some extra melee/range defense, but with the addition of Infusion & bacta shot it's very sweet exchange indeed.

doc is kind of growing on me i do die more often to jedi with the reduced defences but i have a great advantage against normal toons, think im astick it out and if idont like it its not that hard to regrind a few lines in swordsman.

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Qi-zen wrote:

After doing some testing for 3 hours with the addition of 4000 Doctor, im very impressed with the results...coming from a former TKM/Doc, the style is almost similar....and i play it primarily from TKM

It wastough giving up Armobreak & some extra melee/range defense, but with the addition of Infusion & bacta shot it's very sweet exchange indeed.

Yes i'm now convinced of the Template: Master TK, Master Pike, Doctor 4000 - great Tanking ability

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You still get a basic version of armor break (sticks maybe 1 in 4 times).With impale and leghit, the loss of critical hit isn't so bad.

I've been going toe to toe with Jedi Knights with this template. Sure I can't kill them (due to their incredible healing power) but I can keep them occupied for a good 5-10 minutes. And afterall, isn't that the role of a good tank?

With this template, I've been using my katarn knucklers because I haven't gotten a pike yet with similar damage output. Plus the 75 action cost is very nice. Coupled with brandy and vercupti, you can fight a long time before worrying about your action pool.