Pikeman Archive

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WarWidow wrote:
Was it stated anywhere what the CU skill caps would be? Will some form of basic healing be provided for all classes or will basic stims still require the Medic profession? Wasn't the CU designed to make players in combat classes choose a melee and ranged profession?

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1) There are not technically any more caps. There are "diminished returns" at higher levels. Above a certain level any improvement will be minimal, but it's not yet clear what level that is.

2) If I'm not mistaken, anyone will be able to use the lowest-level stim even without medic. It will be totally ineffective compared to a real medic/doctor though.

3) No, I don't think it was ever a goal to make players choose both a melee and a ranged profession. Stacking similar professions (melee/melee or ranged/ranged) is actually encouraged by the cross-profession special abilities.

Message Edited by Gunman21 on 04-08-2005 11:18 PM

Its really hard to tell what will work and what will not, since the key to the CU is balance among the masses.

I am trying to work on my template for the CU. I will remain Master Pikewoman, but I am trying to figure on what to add. Since stacking to a point will be nerfed. The skills are now up in the air to choose from.

Correct me if I am wrong. Was it stated anywhere what the CU skill caps would be? Will some form of basic healing be provided for all classes or will basic stims still require the Medic profession? Wasn't the CU designed to make players in combat classes choose a melee and ranged profession?

Just curious...if going all melee in the new system would consider you a close quarters crowd control tank?

Just think, you can do:
Master Pikewoman
Master Swordswoman
Master Brawler
and still have 47 points left over.

pros? cons? advice? I will state that one con is we are slow on our feet for movement!

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Master Pikewoman
Master Swordswoman
Master Brawler
and still have 47 points left over.

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exact template im working on now for the CU,the best defender pikeman (Post CU since it seemsfencer wont be the defense master anymore) with the strongest hitter swordman (well melee at least) that can use just one set of armor(since we wont be able to change armor anymore after combat is initated)

My other character is a Master Armorsmith. I would *HIGHLY* suggest taking TK, since it allows you to fight with no armor. If you read the Armorsmith boards, they are *seriously* messing with both Armor and the craft. Post CU, armor will be much less useful, significantly more expensive, and difficult to find.

I'm keeping my armorsmith acount for now, but I'm immediately switching my pikeman to master pike master tk....

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DBinky wrote:
...Post CU, armor will be much less useful, significantly more expensive, and difficult to find.

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davelope wrote:

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DBinky wrote:
... Post CU, armor will be much less useful, significantly more expensive, and difficult to find.

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I thought armor-smithing was just being dumbed down, with less ways to experiment. why would prices go up?

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the experimentation line is not the prob.(they hate it but that is not what is really bugging them)

They changed what you need in resourses now. making millions of units if resourses that they used to be able to use now completely useless to them. Also they now require tons of hide that sell for like 50 CPU and each piece of armor needs alot of hides now. and resourses that goes into the armor has doubled i believe.

"Master Pikewoman
Master Swordswoman
Master Brawler
and still have 47 points left over."
Heh, i was thinking of that template even on the basis of that diagram before TC5 has gone live.
For anyone that didnt notice, ONLY pikeman has intimidate/warcry, so this pikeman line and master pikeman will be most popular elite melee profession IMO.
Can't force myself to grind on TC now, tho... I crash too often and xp reward is measley.

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wizika wrote:
For anyone that didnt notice, ONLY pikeman has intimidate/warcry, so this pikeman line and master pikeman will be most popular elite melee profession IMO.

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We're the only ones with WARCRY as it were, but some other professions have similar abilities. There is a combat medic ability called Traumatize (i think thats the one) that has exactly the same description in the Skill tree.

I have been reading a lot of posts from the pikeman and rifleman forums about combining melee profs with melee profs and ranged with ranged to make the best templates. Will the melee/ranged template still be effective in the new CU? Will it allow us to be a well rounded player adapting to situations as needed or will it be too weak in both areas to be effective? I notice that TKA/anyprof will be good after CU because of the armor bonus, but tka isn't nearly as cool as pike. Is there any benefit to being pike and having a ranged prof as second profesion?

I just want to know the feel you guys are getting on the TC. I don't mind changing my templates or anything and will definitely not change untill the CU goes live, but I still want to prepare myself as much as possible before hand. I can max out on TKA exp for example if I think I'm going to need to drop rifles to be an effective melee character.

And that is good, pistoleer has a intimidate shot too. But pikeman is only melee profession which has intimidate and warcry.