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Message Edited by Gunman21 on 05-22-2004 05:44 PM

I agree that DOT's should have a reduction, but maybe not 75% on looted wepons. On CM DOT's, yes, but the diffuculty of getting your hands on a decent DOT for PvP use is practicaly negated by how easily doctors can cure them.

In general DOT's are overrated, and most looted pikes are undrpowered. Just about every PvP player can shrug off a 50 point health disease.

The profession deffinantly needs a bump up in PvP. If we incur a 75% DOT reduction, throw us a bone in another area, like defense mods......

(*Master Pike for 2 1/2 months)

Message Edited by AgekVahoba on 05-22-2004 09:32 PM

DOTs need a 75% PvP reduction regardless if they are CM or looted DOTs. This is absolutely 100% needed in my mind. However, to make up for the loss of DOTs in a pikemen's arsenal we need something to make up for our short comings in PvP and PvE when compared to other professions.

I for one am sick and tired of some lucky FoTM'er looting a 500 strength mind fire lance, then going pikemen and killing everything in sight. Perhaps more aggrivating is when an armor smith with 7564 million credits decides to take up pikemen, and then systematically purchases every lance on the server and trade forums.

This system of loot/buy-----> become pikemen--------> become god needs to stop.

Oh and Pikemen since August

Message Edited by avallo on 05-22-2004 06:43 PM

Message Edited by avallo on 05-23-2004 07:08 AM

Weapon DoTs are both overrated and overpowered. They need to be brought under control via the much-anticipated 75% PvP reduction, which will hopefull take place during the mythical "combat balance".

Hopefully, at the same time, pikemen will see their class brought up to the level of other melee professions so that they can be competitive without the use of looted weapons or DoTs.

(Of course, call me sadistic if you will butit would tickle my funny bone to the extreme for all those non-pikemen who spent 50 million credits on their DoT lances to find them suddenly useless for the reasons they bought them - mainly as a shortcut to PvP dominance.)

Pikeman is a class that relies on looted weapons with good dots to be good in pvp. However,you must note that you do not need to be a Pikeman to use most of the good Pikes. Icould still usemind poisonnightsister lanceswhen I dropped Master Pikeman to just Master Brawler. Looted weapon dots in PvP are way overpowered. However, Pikeman needs these for now until it is brought in line with other combatclasses. People with polearms 4 can use the best lances and reap all of the benefits of them simply because they are certified so low. If the devs want to keep ultra poweful dot pikes in the game, then they should move the certification of these weapons to Master Pikeman.

Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 05-23-2004 01:13 AM

DoT's but they shouldnt have nerfed bleeds

I think this is an important discussion. I for one cringe when I read people calling pikemen "mini-CMs". That bodes no good at all, I have also already seen occasions where people pointed to the DoTs as a reason why the class needs no help or any fixes.

antares
master pikeman

I started this game as a holo grinder didn't care about pvp but on my thirteenth profession I got scaned yet again and was turned overt so I head to the coronet cantina to become covert well guess what three overts were there at that moment I happened to be working onCarbineer so I quickly burst run the other way out of coronetfiring as I go but luck was with me twofriendly rebs show up now it's a battle, eventually more imps hop in then more rebs, I had so much fun I gave up Holo Grindin for Pvp that day. I chose melee as what I wanted so I mastered every melee profession including Brawler inFive days at the end of it Pikeman stood out for me (a.)I love the moves other than fencer it has the most intricate manuvers(b.) Multiple attacks are the *EDIT* in pve and (c.) Being under estimated in pvp is my greatest advantage people always tell me pikemen suckright before I send em' to the cloner.

Anyway back to the topicif we have a 75% reduction inpvp with dots I belive we will forever remain at the bottom of the totem pole even with ALL the fixes inrevamp. Pvp is a who can kill who's mind first competition the only way we can even affect the mind consecutively is dots we are the only melee prof with this problem.

Fencers:Scatter hitthey are so fast that theydeplete your mind pool fairly quickly with it even completely mind buffed.

Sordsman:Headhit 3 obvious a good power hammer can tear u up.

TerasKasi:Most I fight alway's do headhit if your buffed after trying knockdown.

Most pvper's nowadays are stackers incrdibly hard to knockdown, posture change, or even dizziedpretty much all our moves made useless. If your fight'in someone constantly attack'in one unhealable stat while your hitt'in all over the place mostly body which a lvl 40 stim C can hit for over1000 your dead even with canape,music,dancer, and vasarianmy mind is still the only thing that ever kills meand it's not just me it's what pvp is about don't know if they are somehow changin this but no dots no win just the way it is and will be as a doc I can have 200 hit points heal once and be back to full health.I hate dot's as much as everyone else but it's all we have to be competitiveIMHO. THnx