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Thread: Pikeman vs. Swordsman for PVE
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TrickDaddyDollars
Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:23 pm
#1
I'm wondering how a speed capped Pikeman stacks up against a speed capped Swordsman for PVE, primarily against krayts, NS, etc. Who will outdamage, the swordsman with the uber acklay hammer or the pikeman with the uber NS drop LVA?
GaZZacK
Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:42 pm
#2
Depends how uber is uber. If they have identical stats - outdamaging on a krayt is purely skill/luck. On NS, with the exception of the elder which pikeman cannot damage without an NSEL, its the same deal as a krayt.
sidus007
Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:18 pm
#3
he trumps you against elders, you trump him against the acklay. so essentially, they control your uber weapons, you control them.
Oss_Wilum
Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:42 pm
#4
swordsman's hit3 is a 5x mod whilst pikeman hit 3 is a 4x mod. swordsman will beat you when it comes down to it unless your pike is significantly better.
Rince_uk
Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:11 pm
#5
Just look at the mobs you really want to hunt, and then base your template around that. I was Master Pike, Master Sword, but I don't even bother with Elders, so dropped swords and took up TK for defences 
Message Edited by Rince_uk on 03-02-2005 12:12 AM
TheStarWarsKid
Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:01 pm
#7
VacaXXX wrote:
i thought our hit 3 was a 3.5x. . . . .
It used to be, but (luckily) they changed it to a 4x.
SkullBreaker
Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:36 pm
#8
Swordsman 2h hit 3 is a 4x dmg mod, Rifleman adv strifing shot is a 5x, and Smuggler last ditch is a 6x mod. But still what would you consider an uber LVA, and a uber Acklay PH. Some acklay PH's can get up around 1100 dmg and up depending on the bones used, and if they get a perfect slice and a 16% PU. I don't claim to know much about pikes but a swordsman with a uber acklay PH can do insane ammounts of dmg.
Oss_Wilum wrote:
swordsman's hit3 is a 5x mod whilst pikeman hit 3 is a 4x mod. swordsman will beat you when it comes down to it unless your pike is significantly better.
sidus007
Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:43 pm
#9
skull is right, in pve i have used a 730 lva and a 733 ph and i saw no major difference in damage output
VacaXXX
Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:13 am
#10
sidus007 wrote:
skull is right, in pve i have used a 730 lva and a 733 ph and i saw no major difference in damage output
except they can go all towards the mind and we cannot...............
Ebak
Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:39 am
#11
exceptwe can go all towards theaction andthey cannot...............
Hiidduukkeell
Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:04 am
#12
yeah but like Axkva min heals herself at a point... and she can't heal mind...
Dynastar
Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:01 am
#13
Swordsmen, ~90% of the time.
The thing I think about is team hunting, ie. with a ranged friend. The duo of a Swordsman/Rifleman is easily going to mop up a Pikeman/Carbineer team, damage wise.
The thing I think about is team hunting, ie. with a ranged friend. The duo of a Swordsman/Rifleman is easily going to mop up a Pikeman/Carbineer team, damage wise.
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