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atimes

Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:39 am

With the changes to bleeds and given that our profession is AOE oriented should we get serious about asking to have actionhit2 changed to be AOE rather than single target?

There is precident with the Carbineers. With publish 7 their actionshot2 is becoming AOE.

GO CARBINEERS.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=carabineer&message.id=22297

GTOfire

Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:06 am

#2

swordsman beats pikeman for Area of Effect actually, 7 hits vs 6, they have anArea Attack 3 that pikemen don't. Pikemen get 2 stun hits in it's stead though.

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atimes

Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:26 am

#3

I didn't say AOE hits. I said should we start asking for an AOE bleed? It was something that we were throwing around before but I don't know if we ever got serious about asking for it.

Now that there is precident and since we do specialize in AOE attacks should we get serious about asking for it?

Gunman21

Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:46 am

#4

Personally, the way bleeds are now I'm not so sure this is as enticing as it was before.

Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors
Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

atimes

Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:20 pm

#5

I don't know gunman. Seeing as how we are already melee and mobs surround us in an AOE style it would be cool to bleed em all at once.

antares_Kauri

Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:34 pm

#6

Yeah, I used to really like this idea, however, after the bleeds have been changed, it's not so hot, but it would still be really cool. What about an area leg hit that someone else around here mentioned? That would be really useful, too, maybe both?

We are outdamaged by swordsmen, we shouldn't be out-AoE'ed as well.
I just want to add, area2 is great, aoe stun+dizzy is wonderful stuff.

antares
master pikeman

Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 03-05-2004 11:41 AM

|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"

atimes

Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:41 pm

#7

/imitate ThunderHeart

sing it with me. . it's all coming in the combat revamp.

GTOfire

Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:35 pm

#8

I didn't mean to say Swordsman is better in AoE (the HAM costs on themmean you will only use them once or twice in a row)

I was just remarking it because you signify Pikeman as being the AoE oriented profession, while Swordsman is actually more that (something I personally disagree with, but you can read about that in my melee ideas, number 2 in this case)

I think Pikeman should indeed get an AoE leg hit. With bleeds being as useless as they are right now I wouldn't use it anyway, 50 damage every 20 seconds on a creature that has 14000 action seems a bit pointless.

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Ysh-Hon Eeryuu
General Manager, Intergalactic Society of Megalomaniacs (ISM) Enterprises
ISM Superstore - Tatooine (outside Bestine) -1735, -4917
M Tailor, M Artisan, M Merchant

antares_Kauri

Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:51 pm

#9

The swordsman boards sometimes talk about how they are supposed to be the best at AoE...somthing I find very saddening. Seriously, swordsmen out-damage us, have a better elite weapon, can target a more valuable pool, and have 7 area attacks vs our 6. We have nothing over them, really. We have area KD, they have area dizzy and area posture change, which = area KD if they both land. Something I really kind of realized today reading this thread and one of the threads over there.

What are we supposed to be again? I'm lost...

Here is a post showing their area attacks' damage mods. Their area3 even has a 4x multiplier.

antares
master pikeman

Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 03-05-2004 05:57 PM

|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"

Z-Rifton

Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:15 pm

#10

It is a sad sad state of affairs.....

=Zarin Rifton=
-Master Pikeman of Scylla-

vonbloodworth

Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:44 pm

#11

Trucegore vonbloodworth,wonderhome
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OutbackWookiee

Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:48 pm

#12

Gunman21 wrote:
Personally, the way bleeds are now I'm not so sure this is as enticing as it was before.

/agree

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belegaraid

Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:57 am

#13

The ranged equivilant of pike is carbine, and they have an area bleed.
Shouldnt pike also get that.

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