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Thread: Long vibro axe vs Scythe. (strongest kinetic weapon in the game)
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ventilador
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:33 am
#1
wich wil lbe stronger scythe(strongest kinetic weapon ofswordman) or a LVA
well both are kinetic dmg and has ap2
here is the example.
a speed capped sowrdman vs a speed capped pike
why ? when i mastered pikes i was already capped with a 600+ dmg lva, so in my first days i went to get caves, and at the end vs acklay he out dmg me with a 430 scythe. i did not understand because he was doing head hit 3 and i hit 3. Then we went for the fire spider and i tried to kill it with action hit and leg hit, and the sowrdman still out dmg me.
Now i have 900+ dmg lva and now i finally semm to do abit better than swordman using scythes agains ns, geo caves, etc
but why the swordman outdmged me everytime when my weapon had higher dmg.
so in coclusion will the LVA be the strongest kinetic weapon in the game?
-vs tk, i outdmg then very easy, at ns labor camp.
-vs fencers and gaffis, well dont talk to it. even if they have a 1k dmg gaffi exeptional canot outdmg a 600+ lva
-vs pistolers using striker pistol. same as fencer we destroy them
so what ur opinion about this
Dynastar
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:42 am
#2
The biggest variable unfortunately is accuracy.
Crafted or looted, LVA accuracy mods suck.
Crafted or looted, LVA accuracy mods suck.
Iridescence
Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:12 am
#3
Assuming average values for all the stats on both weapons, the Scythe has a much higher minimum damage than the LVA, almost consistantly. A very mediocre scythe still usually has a higher min than an extremely exceptional LVA. This results in a much higher average damage because of the tighter damage range. My 796-max damage sliced LVA only has a min of 198.. my crappiest Scythe has 215.
Also, EVERYTIME you need to outdamage another player, ALWAYS use hit3 and only hit3. It has the highest damage multiplier in our arsenal of skills. The same is true of any profession though, always use your highest damage attack when you need to beat someone to the loot rights.
If you're a rifleman, use only Strafeshot2
Carbineer, Crippleshot
Pistoleer.. Stoppingshot (correct me on this someone...)
Any melee: Hit3
Focusing on one pool will kill the target the fastest and most efficient way but will *not* necessarily result in you having done the most damage! Also keep in mind that bleed, poison, disease, and fire DOTS do NOT count towards loot rights, so if you truly must use Leghit, don't bother with Actionhit. I've seen a group of 3 commandos with a 13,000 tick fire on a Krayt dragon get outdamaged by one speed-capped rifleman, because all of their damage was done with the DOT.
Also, EVERYTIME you need to outdamage another player, ALWAYS use hit3 and only hit3. It has the highest damage multiplier in our arsenal of skills. The same is true of any profession though, always use your highest damage attack when you need to beat someone to the loot rights.
If you're a rifleman, use only Strafeshot2
Carbineer, Crippleshot
Pistoleer.. Stoppingshot (correct me on this someone...)
Any melee: Hit3
Focusing on one pool will kill the target the fastest and most efficient way but will *not* necessarily result in you having done the most damage! Also keep in mind that bleed, poison, disease, and fire DOTS do NOT count towards loot rights, so if you truly must use Leghit, don't bother with Actionhit. I've seen a group of 3 commandos with a 13,000 tick fire on a Krayt dragon get outdamaged by one speed-capped rifleman, because all of their damage was done with the DOT.
Message Edited by Iridescence on 03-21-2005 01:16 PM
ventilador
Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:52 am
#4
good point, but wehn i go for pvp or pve, or grinding i always use acuracy food
citros cake that adds +40 and also i have fs melee acuracy and like +10 in sea.
true, i miss but just like 8.5/10.
i was reading and also i think sowrdman specials has higer dmg%
head hit 3 has i think same dmg % as polearm hit 3
but im not 100% sure
Iridescence
Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:57 am
#5
ventilador wrote:i was reading and also i think sowrdman specials has higer dmg%head hit 3 has i think same dmg % as polearm hit 3but im not 100% sure
This is true.. but even more reason to spam your hardest-hitting attack when trying to outdamage a swordsman.
ventilador
Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:47 pm
#6
thx for the infor, i dint know that who gets loot rights is the 1 that deals more dmg.
i tought it was the one who take most of a ham bar of the enemy, like using head hit.
NalaniKonomohu
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:05 pm
#7
Most Pistoleers use last ditch, if they are smart - it can really pack a punch with a x6 damage multiplier and stun state effect
chardin
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:11 pm
#8
hands down LVA. i can out dmg any swordsmen on my server even if kinetic resists are higher than blast. scythes max out at about 470dmg TOPS. LVA's range up to 1400 dmg
Iridescence
Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:21 am
#9
Yup, it factors in all damage, spread over all bars. I guess I should clarify.. damage per second is what actually matters. At speed-cap, hit3 is your highest-DPS attack. Pre-speed-cap, you'll do better with Hit2 or possibly Area2.
camdizzle
Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:40 am
#10
I rarely have any trouble with the acklay with a 1300 lva beat 3 swordsman earlier tonite just have to know what your doing 
ventilador
Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:37 am
#11
well now its easily
i outdomg 2 swordman other day with a 950+ lva
i just used hit 3 to dead, i dint care intimidate or warcry or aplying states
1 was using a 400+ scythe and other a 700+ hammer,
not the best but still
ventilador
Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:22 pm
#13
as i know there is now better kinetic weapon than the LVA
vs gaffi if it is exeptional made or legendary looted with 800+ dmg it will still suck cause the lack of AP, ( exep vs jedi)
a 650+ lva will still be btter in pve
vs VK, they top on 300 dmg + lets say 250 from tk mods, so550 ap1 VK its good but a lva its double strong 1100 dmg and AP2
vs nothing else,
also high dmg LVA are more comon than 500+ scythes, 700+ gaffis and 300+ VK
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