Musician Archive

Let me state right off, I am totally against the entertainer class(es) getting the ability to do holorecordings of performances.

The case FOR recordings:

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Right now, entertainers have no reliable sources of income

Recordings would give us reliable, physical income opportunities

Combat classes would never have to worry about running back to a cantina and finding an entertainer

Entertainer xp would be easier to obtain (assuming it is like the artison where a use of something you crafted gives you more xp)

The case AGAINST recordings:

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All you need is one person to grind up to master and make a few hundred crates of holorecordings to flood the market and make it so no one ever has to enter a cantina again.

This will cheapen our profession beyond even the medic profession. (stim/wound packs are usable only by members ofmedical professions. Chances are, if holorecordings came out, they would be usable by anyone--if they were only usable by entertainers, then you've just "defeated the purpose" of holorecordings)

You think AFK is bad now? Give them this to make AFKing not only useful for acheiving FS, but also profitable. AFK grindingwill explode in popularity--right now a lot of people won't do their entertaining holo because they think they will make no money at it.

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I have suggestions on how holorecordings could be made more tolerable, but I will wait to post those until I see some of the response to this, if no one is interested in the topic, I may as well not waste my time posting anything else on it.

-Lilo

Join us at the Drunken Tusken Cantina in Mos Elsewhere, Tatooine--Bria Galaxy

I like a lot of these ideas and I agree in general that they should be tied to other professions (keeping in spirit with the overall intent of the game design). Maybe even require resources to make the recordings etc, etc, etc...

Belviso
Master Musician
Master Doctor

Good idea. Just two little points. This is under the impression that there would be types of Holo recordings Like :

a) heal fatigue

b) Heal wounds

c) Buff Focus

d) Buff Willpower

1) Holo recordings should have charges to keep demand up.

2) They should not last hours up hours.

3) They should take time to use. No instant use and you get the benefit. You need to sit down for like 2 minutes before it takes effect.

I like this idea a lot and the method of their creation should be something that forces the musician to be at the keyboard when they are "crafting" these recordings.

This is a good thread. I'm curious to see what other people think.

Belviso
Master Musician
Master Doctor

Onemorepoint I would like to add :

4) At no time should HoloRecorders give better buff than an equal level "live" representation. We don't want to turn the entertainers into crafters-only and empty the cantinas.

While im full of good ideas let's add some more.

Crafting :

Components : HoloRecorder made by a Droid Engineer or Artisan. (Would prefer DE)

You select the item and use the Record option. You then perform your Dance/Song for 5 minutes. the cron will tell you it has finished recording and there you go.

DE's Holorecorder quality will affect charges/Effectiveness with the entertainer skill adding Effectiveness.

A special kind of droid or "entertainment unit" could be required to play the recordings...

Yes I would love this idea. But, it will take people away from the cantina, and the devs have said they want to keep people at the cantina or there is no use for a cantina.

Here are some of my ideas.

1. Make a droid module that you have to have to play back the Holorecording.

2. Make it a 1 time use. (And it may or may not heal ALL of your wounds.

3. Do not allow buff Holorecordings. - make them come to us.

4. They should heal wounds, and battle fatigue. Only a maybe 100 wounds, and 50 battle fatigue a disk. Make them listen for about a minute. -Let them actually hear the song , it woud be something like Star Wars one, tick1=flourish 1, and flourish 2.)

5. Make it two components. A disk that musicians must make, then they would have to stick the disk into the droid with a "Recording device" and have an option on the droid to "Record Music"

6. Make Entertainers have some kindof special droid with a music recording device to "BURN"the Holorecording disk.

7. DO NOT let them be made in a factory crate!! That way if they run out they must go to the cantina and heal, or buy another disk.

It would be a cool thing to have though, I would like some extra money.. heh

And what about dancers?

I like the idea of holorecording so long as they don't undermine the cantina. IMHO, aholostim (not a holo recording)that healed mind damage (not mind wounds or BF) would serve this purpose, and would open up new worlds for us entertainers. But if I can't have that, I'd settle for craftable recordings that heal mind wounds but NOT BF. I just think BF should remain the province of the cantina.

Tiaga, why not holorecordings of dancers, of the same style we saw in "A New Hope" (help me, Obi-Wan, you're my only dude")? A nice holo of a dance by some glamorous Twi'lek might boost my morale if I were traveling far from home.

Alright I'll buy that. Just wanted to make sure people were remembering there were more to entertainers than musicians.

Personally I wouldn't mind at all seeing the abilities of the classes diverge a little. However, I think giving one side something without at least a promise of something to the other wouldn't go over too well.

holostims would be cool, it would let us do what we should be able to do, heal mind damage, while our actual music would heal their minds... we would be like the medics, only not

I think holorecordings would be a good add.. however certain safeguards need to be set in place..

• Holorecordings can only heal wounds while in a cantina and can't be used in camps or anywhere else..


• Holorecordings can NOT heal BF..


• Holorecordings would take heal minds wounds roughly the way that "woundpacks A" heal in numbers..


• Holorecordings would take an average of 2,000 resources PER holo.. This will keep their use expensive and NOT replacing the live entertainer..


• Holorecordings would be a ONE charge disc.. So if you die without cloning and have 100 wounds.. it will take you approx 3,4 or 5 disc to heal all those wounds.. This puts the total healing at a cost of 10K or more..


• Holorecordings should not be able to BUFF.. only live master musician can do that..

The only purpose I would like to see for Holorecordings is to be used as a last ditch effort to heal when live entertainers are NOT available in remote locations.. A NPC pet vendor can have the same effect..