Musician Archive

Thread: Let's try this again Top Issues Polling

akimo
Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:15 am
#1

you know, these issues, especially the afk issue, have been around for how long? since i have been playing and thats 11 months. is there any reason to believe ANY of this is going to get fixed? what, there are STILL problems with player cantinas? what? we are STILL asking for new songs?!?! we all know there will never be enough content for us but it is nice to contribute to the forums by rehashing everything we have ever said before, eh? listen, this top polling thing is a great idea. now we know the problems. we knew them from the start. as soon as u start playing as an ent, u know. how about walking and playing at the same time? or having the ability to cycle player targets in the cantina? better ability to control the ui so u can see better in the cantina? so here's MY top issue: tell us an approximate date for the release of the EU!!!! how much money do i have to pump in, and how long do i have to wait, until i get to play the game that was advertised?



Akimo Ofer, Explorer, Mos Eisley, Tatooine, Bria
Azem Ofer, Master Musician/Master Entertainer/Dancer, Mos Eisley, Tatooine, Ahazi
Ireu Tibe, Novice TK/Novice Doctor, Kaadara, Naboo, Chimaera
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SpaceCrazy
Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:14 am
#2

1. Add Musician abillities to replace buffing. Having the exact same abilities for the customer as a novice entertainer is ridiculous.

2. Get rid of the ability to AFK the entire profession

3. More instruments/songs

4. Give entertainers the ability to form a "super-group". A group size of 8 is far too limiting, especially since our xp gains are greatly affected by the size of the group.

5. Add Entertainer specific content

There are of course many other issues but these are the biggest ones to me.



Mesca Phost - Scylla - Rifleman/Ranger/Pilot
Crem Darkstrider - Wanderhome - Smuggler/TK/Brawler/Pilot
Mesca' Phost - Bria - Grand Master Entertainer
(Master Ent/Music/Dance/ID)

Cancelled 7/27/05 - I joined to play Star Wars, not Jedi-BH Wars. You've ignored/gutted/abused just about every other profession in the game, while spending most of your time working on Jedi and BH as they related to Jedi. You've basically killed the game for anyone who doesn't want the glowstick. Congratulations.
Aleyo
Mon May 09, 2005 8:25 pm
#3

Well, my last attempt at gathering our top issues was interrupted by the changes from the Combat Upgrade. Now that the CU has been live for a little while, I think it's safe to try this again .

So, please submit at least 5 of your biggest issues, and rank them according to their importance to you. Feel free to list as many issues as you have in addition to your top 5. Ranking is appreciated, but less important, for the issues not in your top 5.

For reference, here are the previous interrupted results and the previous polling thread.

I would *like* to get a relatively quick turnaround on this, so make sure and get your issues in quickly .




Scipionus Mentus
Master Musician, Master Entertainer, Master Dancer - Tempest
-I support ATK people and playstyles.

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

ThetaChi
Mon May 09, 2005 8:51 pm
#4

The skill points we use for the profession is a total ripoff! If we are going to be nerfed this bad (almost out of existance), then we should not use the same amount of skill points that a Master Bounty Hunter, uses. That is so flipping retarted. Back when we had the bomb secondary mind buffs, it was still hard to justify. But now! No way!!

Thats all I have for now, the rest that came of the other post are great ideas. Keep em' up...
Tralmek
Mon May 09, 2005 9:09 pm
#5



01. AFK'ing must go. (being taken care of soon?)

02. We could use a statement of vision for our profession so we know where we fit in Galaxies

03. Musician-specific content

04. More songs and instruments, unique sounds between existing instruments

05. Fix /startband & /changeband

06. Male-oriented Entertainer content (along the lines of the Exquisite Leotard, except for men)

07. Fix Nalargon/Ommni Box issues (the need for constant targetting, and the ability for non-musicians to steal them)

08. Fix player theaters

09. Change Entertainer skill mods in FS Enhanced Healing line. Our Inspiration time caps at 30 seconds, so the mod does nothing for double Masters.

10. Give Entertainers a role in game content like the Village

11. Fix /denyservice to work like /addignore

12. Entertainers need a role in the GCW

13. Make gambling available in Player Cantinas and Theaters

14. Provide some kind of integration between musicians and the jukebox (like us crafting it?)

15. Improve our missions to be more interesting, interactive, and scale with our skill levels

16. Allow droids to be grouped in space so we can use them when we party in space

17. Make instrument quality matter, or remove it entirely

18. Fix the bug that only shows /flo animations to people who are /listening to the performance

19. Make the microphones and loudspeakers work

20. Allow calling of droids in NPC cantinas

21. Allow /bandflourishes to grant xp for all musicians in the group, not just the one who performed the /bandflo

22. Provide an ability to cycle-target players

23. Give us toos that help us be more creative with our art

24. Add species-specific music and/or instruments

25. Rework skillpoints for non-combat professions

26. Add the ability to walk while playing music

Message Edited by Tralmek on 05-09-2005 10:10 PM

Message Edited by Tralmek on 05-09-2005 10:12 PM




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omadnay
Mon May 09, 2005 9:35 pm
#6

Wow, that's hard to say right now...

Honestly I have not played on Live since the CU went up... I've take a SWG holiday until later this month.




  • Masters must have a greater significance than novice entertainers.

  • AFK functionality must be removed.

  • High Level Entertainer Speciffic Content; Not just quests but actual positive consequences and results from having High Level Musician Skills (Access to special Locales, special loot, content unattainable by combat professions)

  • Nalargon/Omnibox targeting frustration!!

  • Ceremony and Mandoviol awarded in the Musician Profession (As well as Master Entertainer)


There are so many overall game issues that effect not only the Musician Profession, but all Professions (Especially Non-Combat Professions) that I feel could be mentioned here...


Instead I decided to just focus on the couple of obvious things that come to mind.




  • Larger groups

  • Allow Droids to be grouped in space or allow the music droids to work properly in some other way while in space

  • Fix Player Theaters

  • Remove the damn glowing notes when we play (I always hated those and never ever thought to post about it!)

  • Change "Combat Level" to "Character Level" and grant it for all Professions

  • Grant a DeathStar Deed craftable at Master Musician (Okay... it's a joke... just make it a capital ship!)

  • Give Playback modules for droids more tracks to record and play more songs

  • Revamp Us... give us vision... give us worth

  • Remember that this unique Profession requires special care... not near absolute neglect

  • Customize instruments

  • Buff Self used to be a top priority... hehe, had to include it for old-times


That's all I can think of right off the bat.



May the force be with you.



- Omadda Szool


Kauri


LyteFoot
Tue May 10, 2005 5:55 am
#7

1. AFK still exists and must go completely. It may be decreased now but the CU made it easier not more difficult.
2. Value for my skill points. I love musician and it is still fun but I also will run out of money eventually and have nothing that is valued or integrates me to the game.
3. Viablity outside the cantina - Give me ham for my boxes just like combat profs. Let me wear armor even if encumbered more. Give me a function outside the cantina other than player created parties.
4. Content, content, content
5. Gawd please make combat less predictable and fun again. yeah I know its an odd top 5 for musician but I KNOW everything will kill my level 1 toon and that I have to run away, thats just so boring and predictable.



Elwyn LyteFoot - Corbantis server
Gothywench
Tue May 10, 2005 9:54 am
#8

I'll just grab my favorites from Tralmek's post:

01. AFK'ing must go. (being taken care of soon?)
02. We could use a statement of vision for our profession so we know where we fit in Galaxies
03. Musician-specific content
04. More songs and instruments, unique sounds between existing instruments
05. Fix /startband & /changeband
07. Fix Nalargon/Ommni Box issues (the need for constant targetting, and the ability for non-musicians to steal them)
10. Give Entertainers a role in game content like the Village
11. Fix /denyservice to work like /addignore
12. Entertainers need a role in the GCW
14. Provide some kind of integration between musicians and the jukebox (like us crafting it?)
15. Improve our missions to be more interesting, interactive, and scale with our skill levels
19. Make the microphones and loudspeakers work
20. Allow calling of droids in NPC cantinas
21. Allow /bandflourishes to grant xp for all musicians in the group, not just the one who performed the /bandflo
22. Provide an ability to cycle-target players
24. Add species-specific music and/or instruments




Gorath: Sti-fi Osp-ro - Domestics Trader
Gorath: Honeewoo - Master Entertainer
Kettemoor: Honeewoo - Master Entertainer
Kettemoor: Yohai Darksun - Master Entertainer

Player Spotlight 6/30/06

Warryyr
Tue May 10, 2005 1:29 pm
#9

1. No more AFK.


2. More songs, more instruments, more sounds for instruments we already have, more content.


3. Give us some use out of our "musical mind enhancement" skill. I'm not fond of having useless skill mods, and many nowhave very expensive useless clothing attachments.


4. Let us play the music the Jukebox plays, even if without flourishes, and standard looping bandflourish animations replace personalized ones (like the Modal Nodes in Eisley cantina - you can hear 'em ambiently, and they do movements...let us "perform" as good as a Jukebox can, musically.


5. Let us form a band again with 20 people. That has been the single most disappointing change for me in the CU, because Entertainers took a hit in xp AND socialization as a result...and nobody seemed to think of it until we brought it up.


6. Please, for the love of the Maker, stop making Ithorians play instruments with their throats. Make species-specific instruments for them, it looks like a shortcut and sloppy design/development. Their mouths are on the side of their heads, so playing a horn where a human's mouth would be isn't an option...but that's what they've been stuck with. I think the idea of a stethoscope-like instrument was floating around, something like that would work. Anything would be better than Ithorians using some phantom mouth.


Dacob
Tue May 10, 2005 5:56 pm
#10


Issues:


- Jedi being forced to group thus causing to be on terms.


- Jedi should be able to help other Jedi fight off BHs due to the sudden rise of BHs on all servers.


- Jedi's lightsaber is weaker than Elite Profession weapons and thats wrong.


- There should be a Master/Padawan relationship


- FRS needs to be brought back


Esharra
Tue May 10, 2005 6:03 pm
#11






Dacob wrote:


Issues:


- Jedi being forced to group thus causing to be on terms.


- Jedi should be able to help other Jedi fight off BHs due to the sudden rise of BHs on all servers.


- Jedi's lightsaber is weaker than Elite Profession weapons and thats wrong.


- There should be a Master/Padawan relationship


- FRS needs to be brought back






Might want to post this on the Jedi forum. /points to the sign above the door This is the Musician forum.




Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)


alligatorboogaloo
Tue May 10, 2005 6:33 pm
#12



1. AFK, it MUST go I never wat tosee another one as long as I play

2. Entertainer specific content/locales. I don't want to see a level 80 person in there...at all.

3. Post-Master content, I need a reason to stay a Master Musician, more things to do after I get there than be relegated to the cantina and make my own content. Combat people have a lot of stuff to go and do, why not us?

4. New Instruments that have unique sounds

5. New songs, we've seen a few but I'd like to see more added, even if it involves a quest, just make sure that a level 1 character can do that since most of our friends are other entertainers....we're weaklings and the combat folk despise us

6. /denyservice MUST have its own list that stays after I log out or we are going to constantly be griefed, 'nuff said there

7. A red name post that says they know we're out there and we have our own issues that are not related to the CU, I like blue and all but a red name would be nice

Message Edited by alligatorboogaloo on 05-11-2005 01:00 AM



Neeno
Former Mite Manager & Bothan Beater
Master Musiciansince Sept. 1, 2003

Talusian Vagrant

Jagii
Tue May 10, 2005 7:04 pm
#13


1.)Obsolete mind wound healing tree

2.)Music synchonization issues - all musical phrases, /bandflourished or not, should start at the same time.

3.) Ommni box and Nalargon issues.

4.) Band command problems, like /startband

5.)Experience irregularities with Funk and StarWars4.


I suggest fixing things first.


=Andrew

Chilastra.Palacek

Message Edited by Jagii on 05-15-2005 10:06 AM



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