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Thread: the recusive macro thing...who knows for shure?

PixelMan
Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:51 pm
#1

i read somewhere a while back they're doing away w/ looping macros. I just made a musician w/ a nice flourish macro....if they do away w/ loop macros my guy is gonna suck. Does anyone know for shure if they are gonna nerf the macros or not....=/
Tiaga
Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:03 pm
#2

There will be changes coming, yes. Nobody knows exactly what will be done. It is possible your macro will still work fine.



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TjadenFederov
Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:36 pm
#3

A possible solution i have thought about is enabling a recursive macro to loop for say, 2 1/2 hours, then quit. And maybe, for example, you can't have a pause over 600 (ten minutes), so they couldn't do /pause 7200; /macro X to reloop that macro a couple hours later for another 2.5 hours. I'm sure this could be exploited, but it would severely limit the ability ofa person to afk macro all day, which is really what we want.



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Cudayn
Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:00 pm
#4






PixelMan wrote:
i read somewhere a while back they're doing away w/ looping macros. I just made a musician w/ a nice flourish macro....if they do away w/ loop macros my guy is gonna suck. Does anyone know for shure if they are gonna nerf the macros or not....=/






If I am reading this correctly, you are concerned about being able to usea macro with florishes in it? Macros are not going away. The only thing that has been proposed in public, is the removal of the ability to use a recursive macro. That is a macro that can call another macro.Any macros that you have that do not call other macros, will still run fine, you will just not be able to endlessly loop it.


The removal of recursive macros will not destroy the macro system and your guy will not "suck". Recursive macros are great, for sure, but they allow for AFK ( Away From Keyboard) playing for a lot of professions, entertainer professions being the ones under the microscope. Which in turn created an entire mini industry of Buffbots which harm the entertainer economy by allowing someone who is not even currently playing the game in person, to reap the lions share of credits that would have gone to entertainers that were ATK ( At The Keyboard ).


So don't worry about not being able to be a good entertainer. I am a good, ok... Great Entertainer, and I do not run any macros for performing


Durney


Master Entertainer / Master Musician / Master Image Designer

Message Edited by Cudayn on 11-01-2004 08:03 PM

Tralmek
Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:46 pm
#5






Cudayn wrote:

So don't worry about not being able to be a good entertainer. I am a good, ok... Great Entertainer





That you are.

Message Edited by Tralmek on 11-01-2004 10:32 PM




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PixelMan
Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:26 pm
#6

not being a macro expert....i want to revise my first question and be more specific. so the macros that call on other macros might be going. the only one i'm concernd about is the one i have that lets me do endless flourishes so i don't have to hit my "F" keys a billion times and i can socialize or whatever. so/for example/ will this simple macro still work and is it clasified as a recusive macro? /flourish 1;
/pause 10;
/flourish 2;
/pause 10;
/ui action toolbareSlot00;
Ylis
Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:39 pm
#7

I would call that a recursive macro


It is basically a set of instructions that are set torepeat infinately


That means recursive in my book



I know that we all use this macro, but I think that banning this kind of macro will totally get rid of afkers. Isn't that what most of us want ?


Just write longer macros with out the command to repeat.


I would rather hit a hot key on my keyboard every ten minutes to flourish that put up with afk spam all night.





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Tiaga
Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:18 pm
#8


PixelMan wrote:
not being a macro expert....i want to revise my first question and be more specific. so the macros that call on other macros might be going. the only one i'm concernd about is the one i have that lets me do endless flourishes so i don't have to hit my "F" keys a billion times and i can socialize or whatever. so/for example/ will this simple macro still work and is it clasified as a recusive macro? /flourish 1;
/pause 10;
/flourish 2;
/pause 10;
/ui action toolbareSlot00;


Did you know to master musician, you hit the F-keys less times than you would to post a few long winded messages here? A good rant can get close to 3-4000 characters. You need to hit the F-keys only around 20,000 times from novice entertainer to master musician, given a good group. If you create a macro that does 10 flourishes for you, you can cut that down to only a few thousand, now smaller than that long winded rant.

Message Edited by Tiaga on 11-02-2004 03:19 PM



Inside my heart is breaking, my make-up may be flaking
But my smile still stays on
My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies
Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die
I can fly - my friends
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Warplex
Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:15 pm
#9

So, 3 or 4 of my rants is enough to atk hand flourish my way to master? And to think, its only 9,000 + or - flourishes at 110exp a flourish to cap my musician exp... who'd have thunk it?



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Tiaga
Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:29 pm
#10

Well, only one of your rants should be enough to master musician.

(Teasing!)

Performing as a musician without a macro is like typing 1-2wpm.

Message Edited by Tiaga on 11-02-2004 04:30 PM



Inside my heart is breaking, my make-up may be flaking
But my smile still stays on
My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies
Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die
I can fly - my friends
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Gknee
Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:42 am
#11

I have several non-recursive "songs" that I perform that give me plenty of time to rant/flirt/chat whatever.....Even have a macro for buffing that isn't recursive...soo.....there ya have it...



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MusicalDina
Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:04 am
#12

you mean there is a way to master an entertainer without being AFK. sheesh when did this come about?



ok ok ok i kid, i did it. And sorry to say i got past novice musician without even realizing what a macro was. It is possible, a little inconvenient but preferential over what we have now. Best part is they arent doing away with macros at all, so you can still run your macro, just everytime you put that /ui action toolbarSlotxx in your macro you will actually have to press a button. i mean pressing buttons wont kill you.



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fett3041
Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:25 am
#13

It's even better if you write a nice long macro (BTW, the same one flourish over and over again, isn't very musical. Mix it up a bit. Our songs are repetitive enough as it is.) with many different flourishes. Keep in mind, the longer your macro, the fewer times you have to hit that macro key.





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