Musician Archive
Thread: Your top issues as of August 2004? Please post here.
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EotchajCrestingcloud
Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:43 am
#1
Ok, /agree, maybe not mystical bards... but something productive. As it is, unless a musician also has a combat prof, they are at best a burden to be protected until the mind buffs wear off. It would be nice if entertainers were sought after by combat profs as a valuable addition to the team.
fett3041 wrote:
EotchajCrestingcloud wrote:
Improve our worth to combatants - make us more than the Buff-Bot-Stop-Shop.
1) Please allow Musicians and Dancers to heal BF in camps.
2) Please give Musicians and Dancers something that will help combatants more than every couple of hours.
[snip]
The Devs stated from the beginning that they didn't want us to be the 'bards' of SWG. Although, it's been proven that music can embolden and intimidate (try watching your favorite scary movie without sound), I can't see them ever allowing us to play for mini-buffs/debuffs. Rather, they gave that job to Squadleaders.
However, each player SHOULD bring something to the group. Even a passive bonus to the group (much like the increase to XP and mission difficulty when grouped). For example, Entertainers could provide a passive resistance to mind wounds and damage, or even a slight regeneration boost, when in range.
I like your ideas, though. Would be the combination of SL and Ent... Hmm... we at times lead our orchestra/instrument section/dance troupe... we embolden the spirit, much like mascots (though I refuse to dress in the beaver suit)... It would make sense if the two professions crossed over. Much like doc and CM share many similarities.
sweatyclimber
Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:07 am
#2
top five:
1. get treated like a customer
2. get treated like a human
3. get what were prommised
4. get feedback
5. get actual dev responces
other top five:
1. the new (*&^&^%$# song
2, Buffs via holo discs
3. make /register work but enhance it to be game wide and listing player names
4. another bunch of new songs
5. an instrament crafting purpose
Electro
Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:47 am
#4
Why does anyone even bother to respond to these anymore? I mean, isn't one definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over with the same result yet expecting the next time to be different? It's just busy work for the correspondents and a soporific for us to give us the illusion that what we think has any impact or relevance whatsoever.
The fact is they are going to do what they are going to do, which is precious little when it comes to any entertainer profession.
NewJedi
Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:55 pm
#5
Hehe, well it may be "busy work" for me, but this is one of my favorite parts of this position -- monitoring the ideas in this thread. FWIW, I periodically give the devs a link to this thread. They're always saying they're interested in "positive" and "constructive" ideas, and this is the thread that best fits the bill. I know at least a couple of them have looked at it.
Also, this thread gives me "talking points" when I'm arguing with fellow Correspondents and devs about stuff. E.g., right now I'm in the middle of an argument with several fellow Correspondents about one of the proposals in this thread, and I sneak a peek here to help figure out exactly what I'm proposing! In fact, I did that just today.
I hope people keep posting here. It helps me do my job.
NewJedi
Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:26 am
#7
By the way, TH has asked for my latest report on this thread as soon as possible, and I intend to submit it next week. So get any last-minute comments, additions, edits, or new top-five lists now. But I'm only going to count one top-five list per player!
FYI, my final product is now an Excel spreadsheet with our top issues, but with the most detail focused on the top five. As always, I'll compile them simply by counting your votes, not by imposing my own preferences. (The good news is that your votes almost always coincide with my preferences anyway.) My methodology is simple. I weight your votes based no how high you list an issue. The only judgment comes in whether to combine similar issues. Are "new songs" and "new instrument sounds" different issues? What if we have a bunch of important issues ranked 5, 6, and 7.... can I sneak 'em all into "5"? As always, I'll do my best.
I'll try to post a draft list before I send it to TH, if time permits, to give you all time for comment. But this is a busy holiday weekend for me, and TH wants the list ASAP. Worst case, I'll post it at the same time I send it to him, and then invite comments and edits from you with a view to editing my submission.
NeillM
Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:37 am
#8
1) Make thePlay Instrument option on the Radial menu of Ommni Box and the Nara only if that person has Certification to use it! This will stop the griefers who think it is fun to steal our instruments until they disapear!
2) Correct the %TT in the /setperform message so that it displays a name.
3) Give us a system message that tells us when we have applied a buff (even if it is only when using the /setperform method)
4) Correct the bugs with /changeband i.e. only make it affect musicians who are currently playing.
5) Remove the ability for people to have long periods of unattended "gameplay" (aka Destroy the ability to be an AFK bot)
Cudayn
Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:29 am
#9
My Top 5 Issues as of October / November 2004
(My issues have changed a bit since a certain thing we were expecting to happen didn't)
(1) Remove the ability to AFK our classes
(2) Entertainer Missionsupgraded to scale pay based on entertainer level, greatly increased payouts.
(3) More content - new songs and instruments - commitment from the developers to set a firm number as to an amount of new songs/instruments ( Songs in particular ) to be added per year. ( 2-6?)
(4) Fix register command and let it be used in any cantina, NPC or Player owned.
(5) Add display for both patron and entertainer to see the results of a buff given ( Just like doctors )
I would love to see our buffs be raised in both strength and duration, but surely, surely that will be resolved in the combat rebalance?
Durney
Master Entertainer / Master Musician / Master Image Designer
Warryyr
Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:35 am
#10
REVISED (since nothing's happened since August anyways, and now we have more problems and more pressing problems)
1) Stop the AFK and buffbots, for the love of God. It's out of hand and an emergency. Case closed. Do it. Now.
2) Let patrons and Entertainers see when a buff is applied (if just a System Message). Musicians get buffs ripped off too easily right now.
3) I agree with Durney - commitment from the developers to set a firm number as to an amount of new songs/instruments ( Songs in particular ) to be added per year. ( 2-6?). No excuses, a SOLID and FIRM agreement.
4) Fix /register! Pleeeeeease! Do it, already!
5) Make an Entertainer a respected member of the game community again. I'm tired of being treated like a useless waste of pixels and I'm tired of being ignored for the sake of someone running a stupid macro.
Thanks lol
Now, someone DO SOMETHING already! 
fett3041
Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:22 pm
#11
I think most of us agree. If they do nothing else... If they only give attention to one of our issues... We need to get rid of Unattended Gameplay (AFK macroing).
The rest of our issues are valid concerns. Yet, if they intend to keep us in the game, then they need to get rid of the PCNPCs (how bad is it when a game spawns terms for those who don't play the game? LAMEr, PCNPC, buffbot, etc.)
NewJedi
Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:06 am
#12
Thanks, guys. I'm going to compile these over the weekend, work and baseball permitting. 
Cudayn
Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:23 am
#13
NewJedi wrote:
Thanks, guys. I'm going to compile these over the weekend, work and baseball permitting.
Hey, whats more important, a game, or a game? LOL 
Durney
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