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Thread: how to kill a buffbot

Larmok
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:22 am
#1


use this macro when you are 'afk' to kill a buffbot... call it 'botkiller'


/invite buffbot;

/pause 1;

/macro botkiller;



the buffbot 90% of the time will join your group and not be able to group with others..


Cheers;

Message Edited by Larmok on 07-09-2004 10:24 AM



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Warryyr
Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:47 am
#2

I think your heart is in the right place, however given the current game mechanics this could be considered griefing and might get you in trouble.


Also, I suggest putting a /stop in there to stop the buffbot from playing, but you didn't hear it from me.

Kreistor
Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:11 am
#3






Warryyr wrote:

I think your heart is in the right place, however given the current game mechanics this could be considered griefing and might get you in trouble.






I've actually heard two versions of this (surprise surprise )


One person I know was given the ok from a CSR because he sent a Spatial warning to the buffbot first. Someone else I know was given a warning by another CSR and he was doing the same thing.


This is definitely a grey area. The best advice is be careful, is isn't very good advice at all.





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Warplex
Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:39 pm
#4

Ok, this is the famous carpathia method:


1) Find a squad leader that can distriubute wounds (pretty sure its 0-0-4-0)

2) Find a master combat medic with an average strength action disease pack

3) Disease the squad leader so that his wounds are double that of the target buffbot (most have stamina or quickness buffs)

4) Have the squadleader join the buffbot's group (should be a solo group).

5) Have the squadleader say the equivlent of"i am going to evenly distribute my wounds to between you and me, in the process stoping your buffing abilities. You have 30 seconds to say something before I do." It is this verbal warning that is what stops it from being griefing.

6) Distribute the wounds. This may actually kill the buffbot (haven't tested it that extensivley), but will most likely bring its action so low that it cannot start/stop dancing.


This was OKed by a CSR.



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DarkY0da
Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:25 pm
#5

I've been looking over doing the Squad thing myself... yes it would mean dropping ent profs but... One day I want to quit and the next day I think we have some hope... although the quit days are outnumbering the hope days by a rather large %.



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Drygo
Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:40 pm
#6






Warryyr wrote:

I think your heart is in the right place, however given the current game mechanics this could be considered griefing and might get you in trouble.


Also, I suggest putting a /stop in there to stop the buffbot from playing, but you didn't hear it from me.






Perhaps. I don't know though. After all, we can use the same argument that we are using game mechanics and setting up a macro just like the buffbots are doing. I have my doubts that CSRs and devs will come down on the side of someone who is afk for hours on end if they happened to join a group (which is in their very own macro), or even if they're killed as a result, for that matter. I think there's a very thin line the devs are trying to tread here, to be honest with you. I think they're aware of the damage that buffbots cause and they're a little hesitant in coming down on the side of the buffbot considering the outrage that the entertainers would show should that happen. It's all about politics and I doubt they want to get embroiled in that. Because, even though we are a minority profession. I think probably there are more live entertainers than there are buffbots. (I think.)



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Warryyr
Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:16 am
#7








Warplex wrote:


5) Have the squadleader say the equivlent of"i am going to evenly distribute my wounds to between you and me, in the process stoping your buffing abilities. You have 30 seconds to say something before I do." It is this verbal warning that is what stops it from being griefing.





Wait, so as long as you TELL someone you're going to grief them (even if they're AFK) and they don't ask you to not grief them within 30 seconds, then you can grief them toyour heart's content? What kind of rule is that.


So,I'm playing my instrument, checking my email or talking to my guildies (or all of the above) and some guy I'm buffing who hasn't said a word to me the whole time just says, "i am going to evenly distribute my wounds to between you and me, in the process stoping your buffing abilities. You have 30 seconds to say something before I do." In the spamtina I completely miss him saying anything like this to me. That makes it okay to slam me with wounds and possibly incap me/kill me?


I find that very odd...



FarmerDozee
Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:49 am
#8






Warryyr wrote:








Warplex wrote:


5) Have the squadleader say the equivlent of"i am going to evenly distribute my wounds to between you and me, in the process stoping your buffing abilities. You have 30 seconds to say something before I do." It is this verbal warning that is what stops it from being griefing.





Wait, so as long as you TELL someone you're going to grief them (even if they're AFK) and they don't ask you to not grief them within 30 seconds, then you can grief them toyour heart's content? What kind of rule is that.


So,I'm playing my instrument, checking my email or talking to my guildies (or all of the above) and some guy I'm buffing who hasn't said a word to me the whole time just says, "i am going to evenly distribute my wounds to between you and me, in the process stoping your buffing abilities. You have 30 seconds to say something before I do." In the spamtina I completely miss him saying anything like this to me. That makes it okay to slam me with wounds and possibly incap me/kill me?


I find that very odd...








I get what you're saying Warryr, but I think Warplex has a point. If they're an AFK buff-bot, then they won't be able to grief. No griefing for a person who has been properly warned what will happen to them. Not to mention no griefing from a person who isn't ATK. However, you do have a good point and I myself wouldn't want to be treated like this.



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Schardour
Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:45 am
#9


Guys, the key is to inform the bot that you'll stop when asked (and make sure that you do) to ensure the fact that this is a seeminglyvoluntary process. Failure to respond coupled with a failure to ask for cessation is an indication that they are willing to allow you to run your /invite or Wound Distribution macro


Expect to be flamed by potential users, though.


[Edit] I wouldthem of your intentions in bothSpatial and in Tell/email, just to make it obvious to any argumentative CSR's that what you were doing was accepted by the buffbot in itstotality [/Edit]

Message Edited by Schardour on 07-12-2004 12:47 PM




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royalewitcheez
Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:06 pm
#10






Warplex wrote:

Ok, this is the famous carpathia method:


1) Find a squad leader that can distriubute wounds (pretty sure its 0-0-4-0)

2) Find a master combat medic with an average strength action disease pack

3) Disease the squad leader so that his wounds are double that of the target buffbot (most have stamina or quickness buffs)

4) Have the squadleader join the buffbot's group (should be a solo group).

5) Have the squadleader say the equivlent of"i am going to evenly distribute my wounds to between you and me, in the process stoping your buffing abilities. You have 30 seconds to say something before I do." It is this verbal warning that is what stops it from being griefing.

6) Distribute the wounds. This may actually kill the buffbot (haven't tested it that extensivley), but will most likely bring its action so low that it cannot start/stop dancing.


This was OKed by a CSR.






Can you email me a macro for this?



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Galanthias
Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:49 pm
#11

So my question is why do you care if someone operates a buffbot? Does it affect you? Are you that petty that you want to stop it? I know someone that offers this as a means for a mind buff when you cannot find one.. I personally have not found a musician to give a buff in almost 3 months, and I play almost everyday...I know I do log in everyday. I find his buffbot a service where there are none. Just shows how childish the whiners are in this game. Probably the same SOB's that cried when the devs said they were going to lower the chuttle times from 10 min to 5 causing the whiners once again to come out of the woodwork



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Warplex
Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:59 am
#12






Galanthias wrote:

So my question is why do you care if someone operates a buffbot? Does it affect you?



Uh, yes it does. Since you are obviously so self centered i don't know what point there is in responding, but i will anyway. If an extremely rich person decided to become a doctor, walked into coronet and started giving doctor buffs, for free, don't you think that doctors would be pissed? Of course, people like you would accuse those doctors of being "petty" and "whiners".



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LadyGrey
Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:32 am
#13






Warplex wrote:





Galanthias wrote:

So my question is why do you care if someone operates a buffbot? Does it affect you?



Uh, yes it does. Since you are obviously so self centered i don't know what point there is in responding, but i will anyway. If an extremely rich person decided to become a doctor, walked into coronet and started giving doctor buffs, for free, don't you think that doctors would be pissed? Of course, people like you would accuse those doctors of being "petty" and "whiners".







So how boring has the game become, when you start plotting ways to disrupt someone else's gameplay? I repeat what Galanthias has said: Why do you care if someone operates a buffbot? I do, with one of my alts, walk around and give free buffsand healssometimes, just for the perversity of it. I do, with another of my alts, give free musician buffs (though not through a buffbot). And bringing up free buffs is probably not a good example for you to use, when you look at the very very long lines that form at all of the spaceports, and out on most of the adventure planets. In the doctor forum, there are people that come on and complain that there aren't enough doctors to do all of the buffs that are wanted.


If you don't like people who use buffbots, then don't use their services. If there is anATK person doing buffs, most likely players will use that person, rather than someone who is buffbotting. However, if there isn't an ATK musician, then there should be an AFK musician stationed to provide that service. Why? Because that is what musicians and dancers are all about, and that is providing a service. Oh my, they aren't sitting there prattling away and interacting? Well, even when I'm ATK I don't necessarily do that, because that isn't my style. So why don't you complain about that, too, because that doesn't fit into your insight of what a musician really is or should be?


Get a life, guys!!!





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