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Thread: Defending my Proffesion

SinnAsyr
Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:23 am
#1


Last night I was the leader of the Bestine Cantina Ent group, and a known AFKer walks in and wants to join the group.


Trying to help stop the AFK entertainer cause, I reply, "No, because you will just do /afk, and you wont return for days"


Here is where the flame started:


"What the f*** is your problem?? At least I can act adult. Some of us have other things to do then to just sit here and play a game. This is the reason I never come to Bestine, it is full of kids and jerks. That is why I stay in Anchorhead, where everyone is nice."


I simply reply, "I am acting adult, too"

Even though she didnt see it, she went on:


"I dont have mommy and daddy to pay for this game for me. I have to actually WORK to paly this game. I also have kids! You think I have time to play this game?" (it was longer and different but that was pretty much it)


By this I just stopped talking. Then of course I get ANOTHER tell:

"I cant believe you are acting like this! Well, congratulations on being the first jerk who hasnt asked me to marry me to get onto my ignore list. Good job.


Now I was frickin mad, but went on with my bussiness.



Was I wrong to deny her into the group? I dont think so....post comments please...



-Rynn Lightcloud-

Smuggler

-Accain-

Entertainer-Ahazi
WChase
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:03 am
#2

All you people who bash on entertainers who afk macro need to seriously relax with the arrogance. Somehow you think you're better than everyone else because you sat there and manually hit your flourishes - sacriced months for a profession that takes days - and get angry when someone simply wants to hologrind to unlock their jedi slot so you bi.tch and moan.


Maybe just maybe instead of being such whiners you could simply let the person progress the character and move on happily instead of forcing an argument for really no apparent reason? Do you think you've actually somehow defended your profession by making like difficult on another player just trying to get by? Have the dev's said that afk macroing is illegal or frowned upon? Shut your pie hole and let her/people play the game they want to and stop trying to dictate what's ok and what's not. All I see from this post is a pompous arrogant little kid looking for a fight and wants to flex his e-muscles running the most feminine profession in the game. Take care e-tough guy. Hopefully you feel vindicated after the trudgery of your day to day routine of being stuffed into lockers at school because you got to play internet bad a.ss.





While the Wicked Stand Confounded
Call Me, With thy Saints Surrounded
Vilicus& Kyber Arin


PoetDancer
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:10 am
#3


This person's reasoning doesn't make sense. They are too busy to actually play the game in the manner by which the developers intended, yet they feel as if they need to somehow influence the game world. Seems to me they were trying to shame you into doing something that they have no right to have.


I always have a theory about we entertainers, and it is this: "you win more with carbosyrup than sarlacc bile." Where in the rulebook does it say that everybody has an expressed right to join a group? No no no NO! Joining a group is a priveledge, which is why I was always very hospitable to any group that wanted me. They certainly could go on without me, and you do not HAVE to join a group to get skill levels in music and dance. It only takes longer. Then again, online time has no value or meaning to these bots, and quite frankly, people do not either. This person probibly thought you were a loon for even being an entertainer in the first place, and looks at everyone in your group not as people, but as an XP farm. Its what happens when "non-play" is a valid playstyle. Real people seem to get treated as broken machines when they don't do exactly what other players want them to.


And when this person gains the master title and starts logging on at server reboot only to macro perpetually from dawn to dusk giving out free BF healing, mind wound healing, buffs, and spam in her taped up +25 hot panty, you think she's gonna waste a group space on one of you? Guess again. You did the RIGHT thing by managing your group the way you see fit. If they do not like your reasons? There are always other cantinas.


Message Edited by PoetDancer on 04-20-2004 08:15 AM



Madame Sirii Ajaan
August 2003-September 15, 2005
"There is a difference between being /watched and being WATCHED."
sweatyclimber
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:35 am
#4






WChase wrote:

All you people who bash on entertainers who afk macro need to seriously relax with the arrogance. Somehow you think you're better than everyone else because you sat there and manually hit your flourishes - sacriced months for a profession that takes days - and get angry when someone simply wants to hologrind to unlock their jedi slot so you bi.tch and moan.


Maybe just maybe instead of being such whiners you could simply let the person progress the character and move on happily instead of forcing an argument for really no apparent reason? Do you think you've actually somehow defended your profession by making like difficult on another player just trying to get by? Have the dev's said that afk macroing is illegal or frowned upon? Shut your pie hole and let her/people play the game they want to and stop trying to dictate what's ok and what's not. All I see from this post is a pompous arrogant little kid looking for a fight and wants to flex his e-muscles running the most feminine profession in the game. Take care e-tough guy. Hopefully you feel vindicated after the trudgery of your day to day routine of being stuffed into lockers at school because you got to play internet bad a.ss.







wow a typical afk'r ... you have no real argument just spew a bunch of crap. you say to let the afk'r play the game how they want... well how bout accain can he not do the same? Yes he can is the answer and if he is the group leader he can choose who gets in the group. Its not her god given right to join the group in bestine and go afk, period.


Further Mr." I don't know the facts but im going to spew a bunch of crap and pretend like i am great and act like im going to blame you for acting" Accain is a great guy anda memeber of the greatest band to see this game. It is frowned upon to be in a group supporting afk'rs as part of our bands rules. If you don't like it and it makes you this pissed then farking leave the game cause your taking it too seriously. The only one who's trying to be an e-tough guy is you but instead you make yourself look the fool... next time try to bring some weight to your argument cause your flames are weak and have no meat.




Cheers,

famousFATWOOKIE
Master musician, Master entertainer of Mos Oasis
-I support ATK people and playstyles.
Find FFWB Here!A SWG History
sweatyclimber
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:37 am
#5

btw accain gJ



Cheers,

famousFATWOOKIE
Master musician, Master entertainer of Mos Oasis
-I support ATK people and playstyles.
Find FFWB Here!A SWG History
PoetDancer
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:41 am
#6






WChase wrote:

All you people who bash on entertainers who afk macro need to seriously relax with the arrogance. Somehow you think you're better than everyone else because you sat there and manually hit your flourishes - sacriced months for a profession that takes days - and get angry when someone simply wants to hologrind to unlock their jedi slot so you bi.tch and moan.


Maybe just maybe instead of being such whiners you could simply let the person progress the character and move on happily instead of forcing an argument for really no apparent reason? Do you think you've actually somehow defended your profession by making like difficult on another player just trying to get by? Have the dev's said that afk macroing is illegal or frowned upon? Shut your pie hole and let her/people play the game they want to and stop trying to dictate what's ok and what's not. All I see from this post is a pompous arrogant little kid looking for a fight and wants to flex his e-muscles running the most feminine profession in the game. Take care e-tough guy. Hopefully you feel vindicated after the trudgery of your day to day routine of being stuffed into lockers at school because you got to play internet bad a.ss.





We are sick and tired of having to kowtow to every demand that is made to us simply because somebody makes it. A group leader has the priveledge of inviting whomever they want for whatever reasons. Would you invite aneutral faction member in a faction group? Or a novice person with a D-18 in a high level Dathomir group? The reasons the player wants to are the same: They want the benefits of the group membership. However, would it be prudent to allow such a player that cannot contribute constructively to the purposes of the group?


And then what if they say, "I'm not going to waste time hunting durnis and wookiee brawlers all day! I have a wife and children and a job I need to go on! I have better things to do than get XP and faction on Corellia! I hate you!" Wouldn't you feel that this person was behaving irrationally and wanting something from you that was unreasonable? Maybe. But you always have the option to invite or not, depending on your puropses at the moment. Give entertainment leaders the same priveledge.





Madame Sirii Ajaan
August 2003-September 15, 2005
"There is a difference between being /watched and being WATCHED."
Rhythmic
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:38 am
#7

I agree that if you are the leader of a group it is your perrogative to invite people and lead the group as you see fit. If you are doing a poor job, the members will leave and start a new group.


No one has the right to demand they be invited to a group. I agree that it is a privilege.


Nothing new, just reinforcing the actions.






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Rhythmic SaPooder
Teras Kasi Master

SinnAsyr
Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:53 pm
#8






sweatyclimber wrote:
btw accain gJ







Thank you sir.



And to reply to MR. AFK Defender, , no one could get stuffed in a locker at MY school, they are really small. Plus, no one has a grudge against me......


And AFKers are just those who are to lazy/incompetent to play this game. Or something of that sort.....




-Rynn Lightcloud-

Smuggler

-Accain-

Entertainer-Ahazi
kirah_ashlin
Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:23 pm
#9










WChase wrote:

All you people who bash on entertainers who afk macro need to seriously relax with the arrogance. Somehow you think you're better than everyone else because you sat there and manually hit your flourishes - sacriced months for a profession that takes days - and get angry when someone simply wants to hologrind to unlock their jedi slot so you bi.tch and moan.


Maybe just maybe instead of being such whiners you could simply let the person progress the character and move on happily instead of forcing an argument for really no apparent reason? Do you think you've actually somehow defended your profession by making like difficult on another player just trying to get by? Have the dev's said that afk macroing is illegal or frowned upon? Shut your pie hole and let her/people play the game they want to and stop trying to dictate what's ok and what's not. All I see from this post is a pompous arrogant little kid looking for a fight and wants to flex his e-muscles running the most feminine profession in the game. Take care e-tough guy. Hopefully you feel vindicated after the trudgery of your day to day routine of being stuffed into lockers at school because you got to play internet bad a.ss.




And perhaps those ofyou who refuse toso much asconsider our perspective should simply GET OUT OF OUR FORUMS and stop your whining and complainingabout howour professionwould even dare to havethe nerve to existin your game. . .

dimmu-borgir
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:11 pm
#10

so... because you dont have time to be there... you suddenly need to go /afk and macrotain all day... if you dont have time to be there, why the hell are you even playing this game?



i couldnt agree more, dont even bother with that /invite.





Dimmu Borgir

I art in thine base

Slaying thine doodz

WChase
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:22 pm
#11

[quote]Further Mr." I don't know the facts but im going to spew a bunch of crap and pretend like i am great and act like im going to blame you for acting" Accain is a great guy anda memeber of the greatest band to see this game[/quote]


/slurp slurp spit

/pause 1

/ui action toolbarslot 11






While the Wicked Stand Confounded
Call Me, With thy Saints Surrounded
Vilicus& Kyber Arin


WChase
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:25 pm
#12

oh and LOL to the person who said something about being incompetant because I afk macro L O L!!! I've forgotten more about swg than you'll ever know stallion so get off your horse.





While the Wicked Stand Confounded
Call Me, With thy Saints Surrounded
Vilicus& Kyber Arin


SinnAsyr
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:40 pm
#13





Wow..for one thing I didnt say YOU were incompetent, unless you do AFK.


Oh, and there is a 'quote' button on the forums options.


And dont insult famous.



-Rynn Lightcloud-

Smuggler

-Accain-

Entertainer-Ahazi
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