Musician Archive

Let me also just state that at this point SOE should just fix it. One way or the other. Or state what their intention is. Give us some clarity. Thats all. (probably too much to ask though)

1. Yes

2. Master Musician

A master musician should be able to play all instruments. There should be no more mandovial hazing.

Master entertainer should keep the mandovial, but perhaps be able to do additional dances WHILE playing an instrument to display their familiarity with dance as well as instruments. Think rock and roll front man.

1: Should the Master Musician know all the songs and instruments available and have all the toold to put on a professional performance?: YES or NO

Yes


2: What is your career path in regards to Entertainment in-game?: Master Entertainer, Master Musician, Both or Other

Master Musician

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C_SKYWALKER wrote:

Actually, Bennon that has been a major reason. Its not just having the mandoviol, its what the skill sheet says, and the fact that ME's who afk to get that far have a song and an instrument that can make the Master Musicians sit out completely of their own profession while ME's with ONE tree of music play a song they CANT play on probably THE BEST sounding instrument. Then, if they want to get to the point that the MM skill block says they are ALREADY at, they have to use up almost ALL their skill points to do so.

This has been the primary complaint of most of the MM's. First they drop ME, then they drop MM. I hang out in the cantinas. I have talked to several.

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Skywalker, you just contradicted yourself did you not? You first say that most of the MMs are mad because the MEs are making them sit out... and in the second paragraph you suggest that most of the MMs had ME but dropped it?

Anyway, most of the MMs that I know that are either starting new characters (w/ second account), not playing music very much anymore, or dropping music completely are doing so because of the lack of content at MM. You can either play music, or you can... ah... start another profession. Trust me, ME doesn't help there. (mandoviol the best sounding instrument? Most songs all it does is sustain chords and plays absolutely no melody... I don't think so)

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Hijo wrote:

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Anyway, most of the MMs that I know that are either starting new characters (w/ second account), not playing music very much anymore, or dropping music completely are doing so because of the lack of content at MM. You can either play music, or you can... ah... start another profession. Trust me, ME doesn't help there. (mandoviol the best sounding instrument? Most songs all it does is sustain chords and plays absolutely no melody... I don't think so)

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I'm going to agree with Hijo on this one. This is the major point I see as to why the Master Dancer/Musician/Entertainers are dropping. Too many skill points, not enough content. If all we wanted was The Sims Online we wouldn't be here, but we are here expecting Star Wars Content for our entertainers and quite frankly there is zero content so far. I can safely say that this is why my MM is on the soon to be surrendered list as well.

Hijo, Not so much a contradiction as a couple of facts. They drop ME because it is a huge amount of XP needed for something that their MM title states they should already have. 77 points for Mando/Cer is alot. Then when they no longer have those, it gets frustrating when their proffession is constantly interupted.

All of the comments have made me think alot on the subject and I do tend to agree with those that state the content is lacking. If the content was there, things like this would probably be a non issue.

As far as the mando goes, on the songs it does well, to me it is clearly the best sounding intrument. It is the only instrument that when played does not make my wife say "Can you turn the sound off" lol.

I have mellowed out alot on this issue, I still think however that SOE could do something about it alot quicker than they are. If the intention is to change the description that is easy and if is to give the mando/cer back to MM's (I guess it was there in the beta), that should not be too hard either. At least they could take a stand here on the boards either way and let us know why it is the way it is. That would not even take more than 10 minutes out of someones day.

As I whole I hope they DO give MM', MD', MI' and ME's more content and make the proffesions more worthwile. I like the comment someone made about the Sims...

Let me start by doing the poll.

1. I want MM to master EVERYTHING related to music(ie. songs and playing the instruments).

2. I am going for MM, and not even considering going ME.

I can see that the nay-sayers have a few valid points. However they dont have any solid reasoning for why MM SHOULDNT have Mandovial and Celebration. As long as the skill-tree is set up the way it is today, there is no logical explanation why ME can have Mandovial and Celebration, while MM can not. ME should have skills such as:

- how to set up an open air performance stage in a city maybe.

- abilities to choreograph Musicians and Dancers, so it would look and sound great when they perform together.

- maybe even equipment, like speakers, lightshows and such to enhance certain aspects of the shows.(think up other stuff like this, I am not much of a developer)

These are things the entertainer should be able to do. NOT outdo Musicians or Dancers in something that should clearly be their expertice.

However I do acknowledge that Entertainers should have something that would make it worth it to get ME. Giving them skills that is clearly derived from other Master proffessions is not the way however.

But as long as the majority of people want fighting to be a major part of the game(and it should be, the movies are mostly fighting, if you dont remember), there wont be that much new content for this class, and as such, we shouldnt expect to see BIG changes in the near future. It would be very nice however.

Inof Ob'fey - Starsider

master should know all the instruments and songs.

master entertainer should NOT get one of the best songs in the game any more then they should get one of the best dances or best ID's they should get a cleaned up version of an exsisting song and a really cool looking but not unique instrument.

Yes

Both

1) Yes (and it should be the same for dancers and formal2 and footloose2)

2) Both, Current progression is Master Entertainer and Master Musician (although Master Entertainer would be dropped if I could learn how to play the mandoviol somewhere else)

1. No

2. Both (Currently ME, and musical knowledge3)

1. Dont really know

2. Both

1. No

2. Both

1. No

2. ME, Master Dancer, maybe master Musician.



(MEs should get a unique dance and a unique ID skill. Master Dancers should not be left with the 'uncleaned up" versions of Formal and Footloose on their repetoire, they should possess the cleaned up version.)