Musician Archive

I think most of the 'content' ideas are great and should all be considerd!

My PPP:

0.5. AFKers, HoloTainers

1. new sounds for old horns, new inst/songs, revisit animation on slow songs

2. theater issues

3.all buffing issues...

4. band stuff...change bandflo xp, I still get buged from time to time on /startb and /changeb, is it possible to have a band name perma group guild thing? and still be in a PA? a title ?

5.'content." things to get entertainers into the GCW and theme parks. better missions andmuch better rewards. flashy entertainer clothes, and mini stages we can drop and /stand on, cantina improvements, AFKers, HoloTainers

5.5. Master content: we need more ofsomething (LOL), (im conflicted on the mando/cermonial issue), better band leader abilities, better missions and rewards for masters.

6. AFKers, HoloTainers

Quilex: Well I am a new player

ROFL! Only reason I'm not dissing you for the multiple posts. Haha

BrandonIT: We need to shorten the amount of time it takes to buff people. To expect a group to sit around for 10-20 minutes while I buff them is unacceptable.

1. Reduce the redundancy of instruments - The Bandfill and Ommni Box shouldn't sound the same, for example.


2. Don't limit AFK entertaining any more than it is now, except for buffing (next one)


3. Buffing needs to be accomplished through a popup window that shows progress and requires mouse clicks for buff start and completion. (See "Rewarding ATK entertaining where it counts" thread) Also, musician and dancer buffs are not adequate, especially compared to drinking one brandy. I would like to see the bonus go from a max of 100% to 150% at least.


4. Registering with cantinas is borked. Fix it so people can actually use this feature please. (i.e.: anyone can register at any cantina, regardless of faction or citizen status; cantinas show as being unregistered when they should.)


5. The current system of flourishing in order to add variety to a song is inadequate. More than getting new songs or new flourishes,we need to be able to actually compose new music and dances.

1) Self buff

2) more variety of songs, instruments

3) musician missions content/pay outs

4) buff time and system message or guide for buffing

5) AFK'ers, spammers, need to stop them. crowded cantina full of them is like a over crowding cemetary with corpses that say the same thing over and over.

my first thing is long...so i'll make it my 1-3 since i think ti's just that important


1-3. fix AFK'ers. (also new system that i'd love to see work, i think it would make everyone happy) how? Popup window where you click on a flourish (possibly drag it to a list) to set what you will play. at a certain point the song will be defined as an "intro" then you will be able to use different flourishes for the "verse" followed by the "chorus" with it's own set of flourishes. After that we'll have a "verse" with the same set of flourishes form the first one. Then you will come to the second chorus, same flourishes as the first.

then we will have a solo. everyone will have backup music except for the soloist who is selected at the beginning of the song. the soloist will be hilighted by a vibrant light show and their volume will be louder and they will have unique flourishes that will dazzle and awe the audience. after the solo then we will return to the verse same as the first time. and finally have a few measures to wrap the song up. everyone will be forced to stop playing.

The group then votes on the song to play for the next round and the process repeats. Say what? you dident vote? there isnt a command to do it? ooh my bad guess you cant be afk since now you hafto actually click and drag in a pop up window dont you... ooh well... guess that just leaves us real musicians then dosent it?

after that i'll make the rest short



4. More instruments and songs. (i want an upright string bass and would like to be able to play a techno groove)

5. Buff time. 15 min is way too long. docs buff in under 45 seconds so it's totally unfair that we hafto take 15min to raise 1-2 stats while in that time they could buff over 90 stats.

Surely evreyone knows you can buff in 3mins 10secs by now!

1) Buff Self!!!!!!!!!!

2) Mandovial, or Mando style instrument for Master Musician.

3) Make all instruments sound unique, if only altering the pitch or octave.

4) Heal BF in Ranger Camps

5) Musician Missions for Instrument Schematics i.e Omni box with +10 Mind enhancement, a red Nalargon etc.

I realize this is late but I wanted to add input in a different way.

1: AFKers - make anyone who goes AFK mute.. no more macroed comments or yells until the person touches their keyboard or moves their mouse. This should be omplemented over ALL characters.

2: Instruments and songs need revamp - there is NO reason that a master entertainer should have a song or instrument that a Musician (or for that matter a dance that a dancer) doesn't have by taking the specialized profession. Honestly the entertainment profession needs revamping.

3: The musician and dancer should be able to move around while playing.. s l o w walk unless they are using a stationary instrument on stop playing, this could be expanded by allowing gestures while "animated" like waves, points, kicks, etc. This will allow for more creativeness in performing otherwise we are at the mercy of the flourishes. Note: the extra animations do nothing but add to the performance.

4: Allow healing of BF in camps.. it can be slower in small camps and greater in larger ranger camps. There is NO reason this shouldn't have been implemented a long time ago (like at inception of entertainers). And pets should also be affected by musician playing for mind healing.. .to quote an old cliche: music soothed the savage beast.

5: Musicians should have more impact on the environment especially in a combat environment. The music could reduce or hinder the effects or success of war cry and similar abilities. Possibly make animals/creatures more sluggish or slower to respond to offensive actions. For that matter a musician should be able to play near hostile encounters and slowly walk into their midst with a chance to make them docile (neutral yellow) and then pass by with group with no encounter unless the party takes an offensive action. I don't have suggestions for dancers in this respect but I'm sure with some thought environment impact could be addressed for them as well.

Struggling Musician

Your post isn't toolate. I haven't submitted the results of this poll because I'm still waiting for the Top Ten Answers from Thunderheart, and he hasn't asked for a new top-five list. I'll rename this thread once again.

As far as I can tell, most of the top-five issues posted in the past two months are still live issues. Unfortunately. So it's not like this poll is obsolete.

1. AFK (hopefully fixed when jedi is "quest" oriented if that is the case)

2. The reasons those people went AFK in the first place. One of them being the exp. to go up takes incredibly long to get comparatively to other professions. By the time you go up to master Musician you could have been a master doctor 8 times.

After your done then what entertain, buff, and heal people right.

3. A visible buff "something" to let us know how much more we can buff would be perfect.

4. For entertainer purposes: There's cantinas, theaters, hotels. They don't all work right. Fix at least those.

5. It's easy to see when someone's healed, so no problem there. (possibly a way to check bf left to heal, but focus on number 4 before this)

Real simple stuff here nothing really amazing to ask for I think.

Message Edited by DarinW on 03-20-2004 09:23 PM

1. Instruments: We need new ones, and we need current ones to have their own unique sound, mainly the trillions of horns and the bandfill/ommni. The new ones, of course, should have their own unique sound as well. As a stringed instruement to the musician tree, but not the Mando, something with a different sound, possibly a harp or violin or such, cause I'm so freakin tired of the mando whine that happens so often.

2. Songs: We need new ones. Definitely. Every box should grant a new song. I'd like to hear a variety of beats. Tango, Salsa, a few more formal ones, a few more march-type ones, a few more casual and relaxed ones, a few more party type ones.

3. Nalargon/Ommni: Having to keep them targetted is a pain and also doesn't allow for use of ventriloquism. That radial/play annoyance needs to be fixed, the play option should be removed when the instrument is in use. The Ommni, in my opinion, needs a few more distinct/noticable flourishes. I can flourish on that and never really notice I did but for the sound. I think the Nal should have varied sounds, a different sound for set of songs, much like the Mando does. Currently, there's a slight difference, but not too much so. That, or we need more piano/organ type instruments as well, linking back to number 1.

4. AFKers. Not just AFKers, either, but BUFFBOTS!!! That's ridiculous. This crap really needs to stop, it's ruining us, enough said.

5. Flourishes. We need more. We need unique flourishes per song per instrument. Some of the current flourishes are incredibly inappropriate for certain songs, such as Waltz, Ballad, etc. Heck, they're inappropriate for most songs. Not to mention, they don't make much sense. How the heck are you still blowing your horn while bending over, shaking your butt, and holding it at arm's length away from you? That's some mad lung power, I'm tellin' you.

1) Time to Buff

This is ridiculuous. NOBODY likes wasting more than 1 minute waiting for a buff to get applied. This is the biggest of all problems in my opinion. Make the 30-second speedbuff permanent. It's what the customers want, it's what we want.


2) Self Buff

It stinks to not be able to get your own buff. It's just not fun.


3) Register with Planetary Map

Give us Masters some more credit in Planetary Map (Ctrl-v). At least put our names down as "performing" at the Cantina and maybe flag AFKers.


4) AFKers

Let's not be so unfair towards the Holotainers. The grinding of Dancer and Musician isn't much fun. In large groups, the level of meaningful conversation if all are non-AFK is pretty sad anyways - and that's what's needed if you want to Master at a reasonable rate. If you're just out to become a Jedi and you're forced to master Musician, that's not really the wannabe-Jedi's fault.

My proposal for fighting the AFK-plague, is ... don't allow for /say, /whisper, /shout, /emote, /yell while character is AFK. At least make the AFK people shutup.






I'm very happy with Dancing profession now that we have the 30-sec speedbuff.

Hi, I'm not currently a musician but i'm looking to go into it, also a couple of people are gonna do it at the same time and mess about a bit playing as a band for a bit of a laugh. Admittedly it is for a bit of a holo grind as we are each silent, but after grinding hunting and stuff doing something like having a band sounds like a good laugh and a welcome change to the game play for us

Here are my ideas, and whilst i have read the ideas listed by those who are already into the proffessions i thought i'd share my opinion. NOW i admit my ideas are a bit stupid but at the same time would be great if they could do them:

1. Ability to write our own melodies: now I know this might sound a bit ridiculous and yes i would prolly agree... but with the ability to write our own melodies, individuals or bands could actually seek recognition for their own hard work, by putting together tunes as a band for instance those bands could become recognised in game for having the better made up tunes... afterall if there is no individualism between one master musician or the next then where's the fun in being one when we are playing a community game in which other people from around the world are listening to your music. Imagine yourself and a few band mates would have to write their own individual pieces and play them at the same moment... obivously a tune once written would become a macro to play otherwise it'd become a bit hard to snycronise (and whilst i dont know about syncronising in game i would imagine that looking at the timer on the alarm on ctrl O and everyone starting as the clock rolls over to another minute would be the best way to snyc as surely the clock is set from the server (just my opinion)). But if that band spends a whole day writing a great new tune... then imagine how fun it would be to actually play it for people.

2. Craft tunes: ok, now i know this is getting more complicated lol... but an idea could be that those bands or individuals could sell their music they have writtento individuals... like a CD but more starwarsy! and along with this they can make a CD player which people have to use the cd's on... the benefit of this is that people could then get a mind buff from listening to the music (not as good a buff as listening to actual musicians live though). This would give musicians a great source of income other than AFK mindbots. (The CD's could have a limited number of uses - say 10 like an album) An important addition to writing music is having dancers dancing whilst the music is recorded to highten the quality of the music! This would mean that both Dancers and Musicians can benefit from the sale of an album and that the dancer proffession wouldnt become obsolete, also it'd mean that the CD's could buff all 3 mind pools too!

3. /Applause: Make it so that the individual or band can be applauded (/applaud command from the audience) as a master musician and with each applause their CD recording quality becomes better... I.E. they have a seperate level which they can increase from doing performances... that way the better individual or band that tours more places and gets more applause from people, is then sought after for their CD's as in real life... So it be more like becoming famous inreal life!!!!!! a way of making sure people dont get afk applause could be that they can only play a gig at one venue every 2 hours or so and claim one lot of applause from each person.

4. Charts: Each CD that is used by a player is recorded on the server's so that it recognises when a band or individual's music has been listened too. Each week the chart could be released on each individual server to show the most popular band or individual, just as we do in real life again... and adding to the LimeLight of the whole piece. I mean if u want to be a msuician you want to become famous afterall!!!!

5. Theatre Request: The more successful a band or individual is in the chart (in other words getting the number 1 spot) the more likely they are to be called up to play in a big auditorium by the mayor of npc cities (e.g Coronet, Entha etc.) ... An email could be sent to the registered band leader or individual to tell them when they havebeen requested to play there, if they dont show then it doesnt happen... their loss (maybe be penalised for it by not being asked to play there again for a period). This could happen once or twice a week on each server. The BONUS to make people come and watch these limited and special performances is that they get given a mind buff which lasts for the whole week till the next performance... Obviously this mind buff wouldnt be too amazing but for say 200 - 300 extraon the mind pools (if the individual or band has there own registered dancer they get all mind pools otherwise they just the focus and willpower mindbuff). At the door when the audience enter they pay a fee of say 8000 credits and 6000 credits could be given to a band and 1500 to an individual, this is to make it so that people dont always go individual andband interaction isrewardedto makeit fairer as the money would be divided between the band(the rest is taken by the taxman!!!)

NOW i know my issues are perhaps over the top but in the long term they aren't exactly impossible, they incorporate dancers so that the balance of the elite entertainer proffesions wouldnt be spoilt and more importantly the purpose of being an entertainer would be greatly increased... it would give people the chance to become famous... it would create a world in which musicians or bands compete to get the number one spot so that they can play the large venues and would illuminate their name to the dizzy heights of FAME! lol

I reckon people will prolly say i'm being dumb and all... and that my ideas are ridiculous but this is what i would love to see in the game... The game needs stuff like this to give people the chance to interact on a large scale and to allow people to be recognised for doing their trade... just as the best armoursmiths or weaponsmiths etc are. It'd be great to be in stood in Bestine and listen to people say 'oh you heard so-and-so is playing Coronet this weekend!'. It'd also be great for the community because you would have weekly venue's which would be benificial to individuals as well as have the CD's which help them when out hunting.

I've wrote way too much sorry!

Qui-Lar