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Thread: Draft of our top 10 questions for TH: please comment

WraithDerek
Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:22 pm
#27

NJ, I think you hit the nail on the head with this one... Those would definetly be the top 10 issues I want to get answers on!


Great post,

Jericho Farstrider

Acolytes of Fate - Glorified Party Master

City of Fate, Naboo [Ahazi]
NewJedi
Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:03 pm
#28

Thanks, Jericho. It took about four drafts! It was like marking up congressional legislation.



Ceroshin
Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:46 am
#29

I don't suppose there's any chance that we could ask if playing music in SWG was ever going to feel even remotely like, oh, being a Musician?I mean, not all of us withthis tag on our heads areholding an instrument just to be in theCantina Chat-Group Social...



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LeBob
Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:55 am
#30






Oh, and LeBob? I don't know if anyone has replied to the thing about not being able to pick up missions for player cantinas? It is possible, just VERY rare. A few days ago when I was in Mos Elsewhere I wondered if it was possible so I ran to our entertainer mission terminal and after a whole bunch of clicking on refresh I got two missions for the Drunken Tusken. Just so you know...it is possible.

-Lilo






well this info is terrific! however quite late.......


GUYS AND GALS.... I PROPOSE A NEW FOCUSSED OBJECTIVE... we now know player cantinas can spawn missions........ I don't care how much they pay..... AS LONG AS the terminal that gives them is relatively close to the target AND THEY SHOULD BE MUCH MORE FREQUENT

I'd say one player cantina per page of missions.......


whadya think?



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Ceroshin
Fri Feb 06, 2004 12:53 pm
#31

"

Ceroshin, I certainly would love to fire up my MIDI controller and jam with others for real in the Coronet cantina. But there are technical, design, and legal obstacles. Technically, such a regime would require players to own a MIDI controller, or to struggle with using the keyboard as a MIDI input device -- a possible but awkward control scheme. The design obstacle is that such a system would disfavor people who aren't musicians in RL but still like the idea of dressing up like Elvis and jamming with their friends."


*laugh* I don't ever see it happening either. Gawd, wouldn't it be fun though?


To be honest, I really just wish that the music 'system' was more interactive. Right now, all you really do is /startmusic (whatever song) and after that all you can do is use the 8 specified flourishes given. No tempo control, pitch settings, no real chance to add in a proper band dynamic.


Really, that's all I'm wishing that they would implement. (Standard disclaimer: My last post had a degree of frustration that was not dealing with your work as Correspondent, but rather the extremely limited 'music' system that we have been given.) Things like:



  • Pitch/key changes. ("All right, boys, Starwars3 time, F#, hit it!")

  • Tempo control (yeah, this one would have to be bandleader only, probably, but still)

  • The ability to add 'bridges', 'solo sessions', 'section focus' (focusing on just the lower horns, for instance), without having to rely on a klunky stop/start mechanic.

  • An honest-to-God keyboard/piano instrument. Give it some sort of appropriate name, like a Synthboard or the like, if ya have to. Nalargon just looks and feels too much like an acid-tripped organ to fill this role.

  • For that matter, just more unique-sounding instruments. (Yes, I know you're working on this one; just listing it for completeness' sake.)

  • An actual 'bass' instrument, rather than the bass line being lumped in with the Bandfill/Omni. Call it minor, but that's always rather bugged me.

And that's what I'm really just talkin' about.




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--Welwood

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--Garvin
NewJedi
Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:47 pm
#32

Ah, I gotcha, Ceroshin. Yeah, even the existing strong structure could've required more player skill (short of a Masters in Music). E.g., at least make us all choose the same key; require us to make decisions about how fast or slow to play a tune; and I've long wishes we had some ability for solos and band call-and-response. I mean, the devs did hit on a cool idea -- let people form "bands"andplay different parts together. It's the thing about this game that grabbed me most at launch. But the implementation could've been much deeper.


There's still hope we'll get new instruments and new sounds. In the short term, though, I'd be happy if they'd just send us those new songs they keep saying are in production.


sweatyclimber
Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:55 pm
#33






NewJedi wrote:

Ah, I gotcha, Ceroshin. Yeah, even the existing strong structure could've required more player skill (short of a Masters in Music). E.g., at least make us all choose the same key; require us to make decisions about how fast or slow to play a tune; and I've long wishes we had some ability for solos and band call-and-response. I mean, the devs did hit on a cool idea -- let people form "bands"andplay different parts together. It's the thing about this game that grabbed me most at launch. But the implementation could've been much deeper.


There's still hope we'll get new instruments and new sounds. In the short term, though, I'd be happy if they'd just send us those new songs they keep saying are in production.






you actually can do this with the pause button and it is pretty cool. But as you said, it could hvae been made better to work better




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ZoidNoid
Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:12 pm
#34

One thing that is overlooked is the confirmation of if a buff takes or not. I hate it when you waste 45 mins on some fool that evidently don't know how to receive a buff and 3 setperformances later they still can't pull their head out of their beep beep beep. hehehe!!! Then they say they want their money back now or threaten to report you.


This is something I want to see changed myself.
Yorgrim
Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:35 am
#35

Day 9 since these were submitted. I can only assume the delay is being caused by the new patch rollout, or just maybe they are taking extra time to provide satisfactory answers. Yes, i typed that with a straight face
NewJedi
Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:41 am
#36

I just bugged TH about our questions in the Correspondent Forum. We're not the only ones waiting; the Dancer Correspondent is also bugging TH for responses.
Bihlbo
Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:10 pm
#37

Thank your lucky stars he's taking his time. If you're ever short on negativity, go read the Pikeman's 10 question answers that TH sent out a while back. He obviously could have spent more time on the answers, and as a result, there's a lot of people really pissed off at him.


For instance: would it be better to just not answer a question if your only answer is "the combat pass will fix this" when the question clearly states that Pikemen really don't want to hear "the combat pass will fix this"?

Or, what do you think when you hear "hybrid profession"? Do you think "Like a Bounty Hunter or Commando right? Requires lines from multiple professions?" Or do you think, "Like Pistoleer right? It doesn't require multiple professions and it doesn't take a lot of points, allowing your character to be a hybrid?" Both are right! He could have spent a little more time and explained his answer to the now infamous #3 much better than he did. Some people actually accused him of not knowing the requirements for Pikeman and demanded that he be fired. Over one word.


Yeah, TH, I'll wait a month. Just get it right the first time, please.



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sweatyclimber
Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:58 pm
#38






Bihlbo wrote:

Thank your lucky stars he's taking his time. If you're ever short on negativity, go read the Pikeman's 10 question answers that TH sent out a while back. He obviously could have spent more time on the answers, and as a result, there's a lot of people really pissed off at him.


For instance: would it be better to just not answer a question if your only answer is "the combat pass will fix this" when the question clearly states that Pikemen really don't want to hear "the combat pass will fix this"?

Or, what do you think when you hear "hybrid profession"? Do you think "Like a Bounty Hunter or Commando right? Requires lines from multiple professions?" Or do you think, "Like Pistoleer right? It doesn't require multiple professions and it doesn't take a lot of points, allowing your character to be a hybrid?" Both are right! He could have spent a little more time and explained his answer to the now infamous #3 much better than he did. Some people actually accused him of not knowing the requirements for Pikeman and demanded that he be fired. Over one word.


Yeah, TH, I'll wait a month. Just get it right the first time, please.






well since the point of this was to open comunication more then anything, I would say sure take a month but check in saying... don't worry we havent forgoten about it.



Cheers,

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NewJedi
Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:07 am
#39

Well,we Correspondents have been reminding TH about the Ten Questions in the Correspondent Forum, and I think it's safe to say he hasn't forgotten them. When we'll get answers, though, is anybody's guess.
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