Musician Archive

Thread: My report to TH on our April 2004 Top Issues

Hydzar
Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:49 am
#27

1) Content:

11) First having purpose and interest in the game for non figthingPC. Devs must think about involving the entertainer in the GCW. example: allow master dancer, entertainer and musician to heal BF in master scout and ranger camp. Add a moral component to the faction depending of how many entertainers are part from each factions. -Why do you think Marylin song for the GI's?-

12) Better Quest for musician - terminal and quest park. For the moment, i found only one musician related like quest. It was a delivery one. All that i get it's the Correlia Ho! lyrics song. I'd like quest that will allow to earn new songs. There's something to do about jabba's palace: why not having Lapti Nek song as the result of the quest. -Yeah i know author rights-

13) I'd like regularly newstuff for entertainers professions. How are you supposed to entertain with old and already heard stuff. Nowdays entertainers are no more than borers. So more songs, more flourishes, more effects. I'd like to have the ability to increase the speed of music or slow it and to play it lower or higher. I'd like to have an effect in order ro play drums when playing with another instruments.

14) Crafting:To be able to craft instruments that's quite normal. But why arent' we able to craft instruments that will increase our ability to heal or to buff. I'd like to craft instrumenst able to give BF and Wound healings bonus and Buff speed bonus. I'd like to be able to customise my instruments with color, forms based on the quality of the ressources used.

I don't want stimpack or holo-like healing stuff. Allowing to buy mind healings willsurelyresolve the economy problem of entertainers but they will as well kill the live aspect of the profession. No need towatch us and listen to us any more.


2) Buff

The way the buff was coded is a dead end. No interface, no possibility for self buffing. /stoplisten is the trigger, well just change it to /endperform, which will be an active command from the master. So for the timer we will have the /setp to start it and /endp to close it. The buff it's too long to give and it should be shorter for master. 4-5 minutes.


3) Afk.

Afk entertainers ruins the economy of the non afk one. Afk entertainers declared or not allow PC not to pay active ones. Why should i pay if i can have a free healing especially if i have a lot of wounds and BF. May i get healed by an afk doctor? no! There's no professions in the game that allow benefits for the other frombeing afk except dancer and musician. The passive healing of such professions must be switched to an active one. This will fix definitively the problem of afk as you won't be able to earn healing xp without healing others.


4) Bugs

On this officiall forums a lot of bugs have been reported. Some find answers, some not. Set a list of all the bugs to be solved and do it.


5) Pleased don't weakened the Master entertainer title by allowing the mandoviol to be played by Master Musicians.






Ankh'Su'Namun
Master Entertainer/Musicien/Image Designer/Dancer 4043
SinnAsyr
Sun Jan 18, 2004 7:18 pm
#28

2 words: new STUFF


well...this will be more then 2 words....


We need more stuff! if we get more songs, instruments, etc, then it becomes more fun! there are 2 boxes in Knowledge without either a song or an instrument.




-Rynn Lightcloud-

Smuggler

-Accain-

Entertainer-Ahazi
Spacedman_Spliff
Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:23 pm
#29

1. Can't buff myself. (Gotta ask!) Why are entertainers buffs so miserly compared to doctors buffs?


2. Buffs need a visual queue for the entertainer and the patron.


3. Non-entertainers can use /stop to stop the entire band.


4. Lack of suitable entertainer missions. Payouts are far to low.


5. While a midi input (upload?) scheme would be great for the die hard's, new songs, more flourishes and distinct sounds for each instrument would help.


6. Perhaps a role in the GCW. However sitting at the bottom of an enemy base, playing and healing the troops (darn mind disease) while gunfire errupts all around me was plenty exciting. (Combat entertainers?)


7. There are many many many AFK entertainers. I wish I had a suggestion for this but I can't see how SOE can really fix this. People macro every profession they can, even combat so what can they do?


8. Make wookiees the most powerful beings in the entire universe! mwuahahahahahaha!



Johnson

maharao
Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:57 am
#30

Top issues?


1- AKF and macro abuse - sufficiently discussed here that those who "get it" know what I refer to, and the others just want to grind to master without understanding the basics of being a musician (OK, OK, I just made master BY CHOICE without ONE SECOND of AFK or macro-zombie-robot activity) - this, more than anything else, is destroying the professionalism of all entertainer classes - and those blasted holo-bricks (probably intended to keep some "hooked" into the game-payment ritual in pre-pubescenthopes of growing up to be a jedi?) have just amplified the preexisting problem - I actually could have listed this as issues 1 through 5, it is THAT major! (and it has apparently beenignored in the major issues diagnosed in the past - slick tricks to "keep us at the keyboard" frankly miss the point andignore the problem)


2- the theater uselessness needs to be fixed - again, no need to detail these problems here - as it is coded as being "outside", we cannot truly perform there and it is useless except as a sexy building (which it is) - focus player-made cantinas on chefs and theaters on entertainers?


3- the well-known problems with the ommni box and the nalargon - it means I rarely play them, and that is a loss


4- this is a general plea: that entertainers receive some (any) serious attention from the devs - their attention seems welded (1) to anything that will trick subscription-payers into forking over for a few more months (player cities, mounts, vehicles, holos as cheap trip to jedi, what is next? - one gimmick after another with scant attention to real problems) and (2) to those characters whose craft is to kill others, PvP may be the focus for some, but not for all- entertainers, medical types, craftershave beenpretty much ignored - if they are seen, as I submit they are, as no more than service personnel by the devs, no more than living and grinding NPCs whose purpose is to give the demanded services where and when they are wanted, then why does it surprise us if most of the "gun-boys" share this attitude


5- the music sounds and songs are tedious, and the "missions" are intellectually and professionallyinsulting, and if there is enough time after dealing with items 1-4, then they might be addressed - but just throwing us a new instrument or a new sound or some less silly missions will NOT even remotely address the problems in the musician (and other entertainer) profession


And I do hope someone listene, please . . . .


maharao
Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:00 am
#31

Oops - absence of "edit" function-


Let me add:


3a- fix buffs - make it so we don't have to "buff blind"


OK, I cheated and listed six, beat me with a slitherhorn



NewJedi
Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:03 am
#32

Keep 'em coming, folks.


To avoid confusion about which is the current poll, I've "unstickied" my other "polling threads," as well as last month's "top five and dev responses" thread. Please post your current top issues in this thread, even if you've posted them in other threads in the past, and even if your responses haven't changed. Also, it is slightlyeasier for me totallyyour votesif you post just a top five, but I don't really mind if you want to post more issues.

Gknee
Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:10 am
#33

1. I should be able to buff myself


2.some type of visual or message system to let both parties know the buff has been applied


3. new content


4. revamp of the band commands


5.more instruments




Nosmina Osoga
Proprietor of The Dew Drop Inn
Mesric Sanctuary, Tatoonine
(mmmm.....Cake.....)
Minty freshness!!
Gknee
Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:13 am
#34

Darn..I also wanted to talk about the theater and cantina


the cantina registered notification needs to be fixed so you can truely see if there is someone there and the theater...well....we all know that needs work




Nosmina Osoga
Proprietor of The Dew Drop Inn
Mesric Sanctuary, Tatoonine
(mmmm.....Cake.....)
Minty freshness!!
cronus00
Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:45 pm
#35

Top 5:



  1. More Songs and Flo's.. I would like to see maybe up to 12 per song.. (F1-F12)?, And, posibly up to 2 or 3 more new songs..

  2. FIX Player THEATERS for crying out loud..

  3. Group Buffs.. Taking up to 30 minutes or so to buff a full group, when the buff only last about an hour is STUPID SOE Dev planning and foresight.. Individual buffs should take about a minute.. Groups 2 minutes..

  4. Do something , anything to keep people from Holo Macrotaining..

  5. More options with Cantina that are FUN, other then just placing them.. ie. gambling, entertainer vendors (pets) that can be paid for and used during times when no live entertainer is around.. I would even exchange this idea for "CD" that heal ONLY in the cantina, similar to a wound stimpack.. something, anything that will give something more for the MM to do, and to offer as a replacement to the concept idea of "Muletainer" that many player cities have to do to keep the residence healed 24/7.. This idea will most likely never fly,, because It's my experience and knowledge that there are estimated to be a FEW hundred 2nd accounts being paid to have a muletainer afk in a cantina somewhere... SOE will not take away real money from their pocket books, to give us any perks in that area.. To impliment such an idea of a "entertainer" vendor that MM's can use, or CD's to heal in off times will cause virtually all those secondary muletainers accounts to go BYE BYE..

As famour saying goes, "I have a dream"....

CraytKamakura
Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:55 pm
#36

Hello All,

Hope you are all doing well, here are my Top 5 suggestions.

#1. Self Buffing

#2. NPC Band Members as you go up the Tech Tree. At Master would have 4 NPC Band Members that play along with you.

#3. Individual instruments need distinctly different sounds.

#4. Vibro Harp, or some other stringed instrument in the Master Musician Box.

#5. Musician Recordings to heal mind wounds and 10 percent BF.

I am not even going to put more songs in here......hehe

Crayt Kamakura
Master Musician/Master Artisan
Bria Server
Planet Naboo
City of New Solah
Blackrock
Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:25 am
#37

Greetings,


Anudda mont already


1.) More songs,instruments,flourishes.


2.) Remove the ability to gain exp while afk.


3.) And of course. Fix the inconsistency with ME/MM. ME needs to be better developed and not have to take an instrument and song from MM's to make them viable.




Yo Jedi I'm gonna start to just copy/paste these as the month's go by



Thank you though!!! for your efforts and always trying for us!!







Torean Greysong
Master Musician, Master Entertainer

"It's a savage Garden.... May as well Dance".




XeroAnarian
Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:00 am
#38



DenisaGalen wrote:

1: Usefullness, Nobody needs master musician, atleast on tempest. When I still played my musician I got1 buff request a gaming session (friday / saturday gaming session is between 7 and 10 hours each depending on how tired/bored I am), so I'm not needed.

2: AFK tainers, Kill them. They are annoying as a musician and as a Ranger I hate that every cantina is only occupied by AFK tainers, I want to be greeted, be asked how my field trip was, fail that and you might as well implement NPC entertainers and make entertainer a hobby which costs 0 skillpoints (I am serious about this hobby thing, the server I play a Ranger at rarely has a non AFK entertainer anywhere and I planet hop to find one ending up just stacking the BF to the point where it HAS to be healed and then I just AFK park myself and save alot of money on tips, no hello or /wave no pay).

3: Content, more songs, better missions, some kind of quests.

4: Healing in camps, Make the 2 fieldbases heal BF when there's a master musician / dancer performing in it, also check the Ranger forum for a fantastic document about modular camps where musician / dancers can craft a BF healing module.

5: Instrument experimentation, it is still pointless to sell them on a vendor. After a month of having a vendor up with 4 of each, I sold a few fizzes and Slitherhorns and my guess is only to fellow guild members, not sure, I hardly ever log in to my Tempest account because of point 1.






Hmm, not true about the instruments. I used to make my money off of instruments in Theed, before the Jedi/Holocron/AFK outbreak. I'd sell out 3 sets off all 10 instruments in a few days.


1. New Instruments, Sounds
2. Make us a bit more useful.
3. Make buffs shorter, or add a timer. (I give free buffs, and get 5k tips, and knowing when I can stop will help me a lot.)
4. Make instrument quality matter. (This actually would be fun. People would have a reason to buy from me, other than the fact I'm the only Master who sells in Theed.)
5. KILL ALL AFK! (or better yet, make a new jedi system, so all the fanboy wannabe jedi's don't ruin peoples professions... Holocrons have hurt the economy badly)



X'ero Anarian
Elder Swordsman
Elder Pikeman
Spy Extraordinare
NovaSpice
Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:29 pm
#39

1. More Instruments, songs, and flourishes


2. AFK Problem


3. Gig XP


4. Healing in Camps


5. Musician-specific clothing

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