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Thread: buffbots :(

Vermicious_Knid
Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:39 am
#27

Javier, I mean this with all respect, since your posts are always constructive, polite, and thoughtful, but if you put that question to a poll of the general player base you'd lose by a landslide.


What do you think of moving the blue stat healing/buffing elsewhere, but giving entertainers other, valid ways to make money?






So correct me if I'm wrong. Your argument is that having buff bots is much more beneficial to the star wars universe and this game than having actual entertainers in a cantina?








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Kreistor
Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:46 am
#28






Akkurscid wrote:


Well the problem is if you Don'tget the best armors weapons and Buffs,you are not competive. It dosen't really matter what the "Best" is, but if you don't got "it", then you are not competive.


Otherwise I agree adn Stackable defenses got to go, they are the bane of all professions, execpt the FOTM





I don't understand your point here. If the buffbot solution was dealt with, then it would be dealt with for everyone, not just you. Everyone would still be on equal footing, having to look for an entertainer. So, you'd still be competative...






Akkurscid wrote:

Ok, I covered this else wherebut I can cover it again.


"All of theentertainer Professions are"boring" Professions for most people.


The opperative words are"most poeple" If your point is to say"All people find entertainer quite fun and never boring" then we have a disagreement.However, I'm pretty sure you are not saying that.





Um, you need to actually read what I posted.



"There are quite a few people that find being and Entertainer quite satisfying and will do what they can to make sure that this profession is given some attention."


I don't know how you got that I thought everyone enjoyed entertainer out of this statement. I'm not going to be silly enough to think this. Everyone has their own opinions about every profession, and I'm not self-centered enough to think that my choice is always the right one.









Akkurscid wrote:


I am saying "most people would not like to play a full time entertainer." and "would find the prospect of such quite boring" This is a fact issupported up by the low number of the entertainer population. As a matter of fact I was at a pool party last night and played someSWG durring that time. It was stated byone of the party goers at the time that the whole SWG game itself was boring. This is coming from an avid gamer mind you.


My statement is not a flame but rather... an Observation. An Observatin that supports some of my other statements. Many of those statements areaimed at supporting Entertainers in general.The only excption of the imediate dismantling of Buff Bots because it would be detrimental to the state of the general SWG community as it is right now IMO.






My response to this is so what? Just because a profession is unpopular it should be unsupported, or should be supported in an unsocial manner in order to degrade the profession further? And yes, this is MY OPINION *rolleyes*


It's very possible that this observation is right. I have no facts to base this on as obviously you do, so I'll accept this. However, from my observations I've noticed that Carbineer is also a very unpopular combat class. By your arguement, they should be ignored. And yet, there were patches made to their class a few months ago.


Basically, what I'm saying is that SOE has made its bed and now has to sleep in it. They created the social classes and people are paying $15 a month to play them. The fact that they've allowed the Buffbot situation to go on is wrong, and they've stated as much in one of the State of the Game addresses. I agree with you, entertainers are leaving the profession. But guess what? Thea very good portionof the time it's BECAUSE of the Buffbots. And yes, I talk to entertainers a bit so this is not opinion but FACT. So, by supporting Buffbots you're actually forcing the decline of the entertainer population, which you call an inconvenience. Hate to tell you, but it's not us you should be angry at for not beign able to find us, it's the Bots themselves.









Akkurscid wrote:


Stackable Defenses have got to go first, which will get rid of the FOTMs which in turn brings back the combat/sometingelse type characters, many of which will include entertainers. Thus bringing good and properous things to the entertainer community. And then, finally, the end of the Buff Bot would be exceptable.





Actually, I'd have to say that Buffs have to go first. My guess is that both these issues are going to be dealt with when the combat revamp hits. I'm thinking there will be ALOT of NERF screams when it hits. I can't wait to see what happens.





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Drygo
Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:31 pm
#29

Look, you claim that in order to be competitive in PvP you need a mindbuff. Then, you turn around and say that the Jedi are buffed, or so and so is buffed. Obviously, somebody's getting a buff here. And, obviously there must be a buff available. I wonder where your competitor got their buff? As with everything else in the game, you have to sometimes seek out what you need. If it's not available, you have to go without. Your competitor found a buff in this hypothetical scenario, you did not. Perhaps this competitor got their buff from a buffbot. If that's the case, then the argument still stands that if they got rid of buffbots, you'd still be on an even playing field. And, you'd have to make due and perhaps wear your "lesser" armor. If your competitor got a buff from a live dancer or musician because they know someone or have one in their guild, then all that means is that you need to do what your competitor did: ie, make more friends who can buff you or make sure you invite more entertainers to be part of your guild. If your competitor did not get a buff, then you are on an even playing field. Perhaps next time, you'll be able to find a buff and he won't.


If there were no buffbots, then you'd all be on an even playing field relative to your skill points, and profession templates and what you've decided to do with them. Therefore, mindbuffs are *not* a necessity in this scenario. They are merely an added bonus, just like having the doctor buffs, or the best armor. It's up to you to decide what you want to do in order to get the best advantage if there were no buffbots around. Just because someone else happens to have found a mindbuff does not justify your use of a buffbot, or vice versa.



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