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Thread: Thunderhearts response on a top 10 entertainer issue

slabby
Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:51 am
#14

TO the person who complained about the shuttle jumping to find an entertainer as an argument FOR AFKing, I have afew points to make.


Thenext time I find one of these AFKers in a remote location will be the first. They aren't doing that to help me, by putting entertainers where people might need them when they aren't playing, they are all in Theed, Bestine, Anchorhead, and Coronet grinding XP. You know what else? I never had a problem finding entertainers in those Cantinas anyway before the AKF epedimic. So I'm taking the same shuttle rides and getting a LOT of lag for my trouble to do it with so many people logged onto one place. Don't try to give me the "AFK is helping you" arguement, because it doesn't hold water. AFK does not help me, it helps the people doing it only.


So please, spare me the "We're only doing this to help everyone" semantics. I'm not interested in lame justifications for people leveling in their sleep, making all of our ping worse so they can be master whatever 2 hours quicker.


Thanks for playing.





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Bihlbo
Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:26 am
#15

It seems like they really do not care about what we as entertainers feel is a GAME BREAKING problem

Hahaha. Wow, that's rediculous.



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Blackrock
Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:30 am
#16

Sadly we have discussed debated this for what feels like forever.


Until this effects combat classes noone cares. If this was an afk group hunting krayts oh the cry you would hear!!!!


Every effort has been made by experienced players regarding this issue. Devs have made their bed.


Demographics and game saleswill tell the tale...








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Ekimee
Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:05 pm
#17

AFK Entertainers CAN buff. One of theplayers in my guild runs an AFK Musician buffbot all the time. Almost anything can be done AFK in this game if your macro skills are good enough



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Ackehece
Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:14 pm
#18

the only way to target a player when afk is to use an external program (which is against the EULA) fighters types do have afk macros that run all the time as well.. and yes they require outside help macro help... if your person is afk and giving buffs... tell a csr and get their butts kicked out.


and yes we have afk tainers in some cities on far out planets...


you say travel to where the entertainers are... i would say it takes 20 mins to make the trip in many cases and that is each way... i play 1 hour a day so a 20 min trip each way = 40 of my 60 mins... oh real fair guys!


afk'rs need to stay... and they need to stay away from the major cities so that real entertainers can put on a show...

or the opposite - if you want live entertainement go to a player city... advertise like all get out that you are there. make us want to see you.. bitching to everyone about afk'rs makes many of us not want to see you.



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JasonK
Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:05 pm
#19






Ackehece wrote:

the only way to target a player when afk is to use an external program (which is against the EULA) fighters types do have afk macros that run all the time as well.. and yes they require outside help macro help... if your person is afk and giving buffs... tell a csr and get their butts kicked out.





Yeah, please report all those people using /join and /ui action targetGroup in their macros for using an external program. Maybe if you do it enough they'll boot your for constantly reporting people for nothing.



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Ackehece
Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:23 pm
#20

am sorry after some experimenation i find that you are correct about afk buffing...




oh well. please take my apology



anyway it still is a benefit to have holotainers - just not in the big cities.

As I said if i am on likelok for me to get healed by you I would have to take

a) 1 shuttle to nyms (4-9 mins )

b) 1 shuttle to a core world (again 1- 9 mins ) if i am lucky 1

c) find a cantina (fortunately theed usually has someone in it... even if that person is a AFKER!)

d) wait for the 5 mins or so)

e) take shuttle back to lok (yeah it's theed so no wait!)

f) shuttle back to city i started at... hmmm

lets see if i had a holotainer in orginal city

total time = 5 mins

else total time = 8min (average outbound) + 5 mins heal + 5 mins back to city

= 18 mins of game time...

worst case is much worse 18 mins outbound + oops ... no one in theed (it does happen)

+ 5 mins to next city + 5 min heal + 9 mins to lok + 9 mins to start point

= 46 mins out of my play time...


out of 60 mins then i have 14 mins of actual fun

stupid.... leave the holotainers alone



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sweatyclimber
Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:28 pm
#21






JasonK wrote:





Ackehece wrote:

the only way to target a player when afk is to use an external program (which is against the EULA) fighters types do have afk macros that run all the time as well.. and yes they require outside help macro help... if your person is afk and giving buffs... tell a csr and get their butts kicked out.





Yeah, please report all those people using /join and /ui action targetGroup in their macros for using an external program. Maybe if you do it enough they'll boot your for constantly reporting people for nothing.






whew i thought our troll had left



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JasonK
Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:51 pm
#22






sweatyclimber wrote:





JasonK wrote:





Ackehece wrote:

the only way to target a player when afk is to use an external program (which is against the EULA) fighters types do have afk macros that run all the time as well.. and yes they require outside help macro help... if your person is afk and giving buffs... tell a csr and get their butts kicked out.





Yeah, please report all those people using /join and /ui action targetGroup in their macros for using an external program. Maybe if you do it enough they'll boot your for constantly reporting people for nothing.






whew i thought our troll had left





whew i thought my stalker had left



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JohnMarble
Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:32 am
#23

Nah, it's real easy with group buffs. All their macro does is have a /join at the beginning, so a group or person invites them. You can listen in a group and get the buff without them needing to do anything more.

Anyway, this thread might be the same old argument all over again, but it makes one feel better to rant.
Tralmek
Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:51 pm
#24

hehe no offense,SinnAsyr, but did you notice the dates on this thread?


And so far as our dear troll goes...maybe I haven't been on the music boards enough lately, but I haven't seen him around for awhile.


And stalking on the forums? Defenitely possible, all you have to do is search for somone's past posts and see what they've been up to. Butif anyone asks, I'm not the one who taught you how to stalk.


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SinnAsyr
Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:28 am
#25

How in the heck can you stalk on forums?




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SinnAsyr
Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:08 am
#26

Whoops.......must have been sent back into the forums without knowing it and bumped a post.....stupid me hehe



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