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Thread: Thunderhearts response on a top 10 entertainer issue
Point taken. They need to make it so doctors and medics can be bots as well, because I want the other healing and the med centers are always empty.Afterall, that'sonly one ham bar you're fixing, not two.Also, sometimes I can't get a good group. They need to make combat professions completely automated, so I can just grab some people in town, go hunting with them while they're afk, then drop 'em back off when I'm done. They may as well go full bore with it, and make EVERY profession like this.
It would be so much fun!
I remember the first night I saw a group of 'fighter types' crying that there were a group of AFKers camping a well known spawn spot. The whined on and on about how it was not right that someone should just stand there and kill all the spawns and not let anyone else have a chance at them. They even cried because the AFKer was not looting the corpses (supposedly) and that all the loot was going to waste, which was the reason they were there... to collect loot. This was the most pathetic group I had (and still have) ever seen. They were screaming, cursing, threatening to /report... saying how this was so wrong, how going AFK like this was so bad... blah blah, blah...
I tried to explain that entertainers had been going through this for months and they tried every argument. Well these people are doing it for XP, they are just trying to level up... etc... I had to (repeatedly) explain that this was the same problem we had been facing, and they just did not understand how this was the same. I finally walked away laughing to myself... Karma had finally started to strike back.
Yeah, there's threads in the Jedi forum where they use their main char's to afk kill/loot to gather crystals.
One can only hope it becomes more common, and more fighter types like you saw complain about it, because that's who the dev's listen to.
JohnMarble wrote:
Point taken. They need to make it so doctors and medics can be bots as well, because I want the other healing and the med centers are always empty.Afterall, that'sonly one ham bar you're fixing, not two.Also, sometimes I can't get a good group. They need to make combat professions completely automated, so I can just grab some people in town, go hunting with them while they're afk, then drop 'em back off when I'm done. They may as well go full bore with it, and make EVERY profession like this.
It would be so much fun!
nice sarcasm there but we don't need doc's to heal
med centres heal when you are in them wether docs are there or not - it just is much much slower
maybe that could be your solution - if you are mark afk cut your healing power by factor by 7/8 if you are afk you only heal 1/8 as much as a live person. * i like this idea* (or remove their heal ability and let the cantina act as a med centre for the mind )
as for combat professions - people use macros to play them but unlike dancers they actually take a risk if they go afk - some big nasty could spawn and kill them *poof* insta clone trip... when was the last time an entertainer was killed afk macroing?
forgot one point
also afk'macro holotainers (whatever you call them) can not give buffs. it makes it worthwhile to be live and in charge - i say remind the viewers that you as musicians and dancers can give buffs if you focus on them. the afker's cannot - even a novice gives a better buff then an afk master ^_^
First, cantinas work like med centers. You can sit in them and slowly heal the exact same way. Second, there are people who give free entertainment buffs while away from the keyboard, have macros specifically designed to do so, look in this forum for the thread talking about it.Thanks, guys, for making the player base expect meto give my buffs for free now. Why do I have allthese skillpoints devoted to this profession, when I can't even buff myself, and I must compete with bots?Also, the combat afk'ers are hardily taking risks! They're killing mobs too far below them in level, and not taking any damage (OR they use stairs exploits along with their legal macro exploits).It's just a cheap way to gain exp over many many hours, or to harvest loot. Legal or not, it's still cheating.
I was running the Jabba themepark one time, and some noob gave me a tell from Wayfar asking me to come heal him. I did, then helped him take out the sandperson leader that had given him his deathblow. He didn't know better, like everybody else around here, that you shouldn't actually try and search for a liveperson to give you the mind healing, but instead return to the Bestine and watch the afk'ers.
I'm tired of the ridiculous argument people give about the far farfar O so far remote places where they need these afk'ers. Bull.You have swoops, and any remote planet is only one hyperjump from a major cantina. Anyway, I'll always stop what I'm doing to come to a town and heal somebody if they send a /tell, and I don't even care about the tips. I'm sure more enetrtainers would be happy to do the same, those few that haven't already given the profession up to the bots.
One other point...
For those of you who say they like the AFK entertainers who heal in the far away places, well with the no XP while AFK idea if they are truly there to help and perform a servicethey would still be able to heal you (and you could still tip them for their service). Also as stated above, if there is no entertainer where you are, go find one. You have to find a doctor sometimes, or a slicer, weaponsmith... etc... They are not always available everywhere all the time, why should entertainers be? Get off your lazy butt and go find one...
Imcus wrote:
Of course there will be those who hate this idea. I will hear the usual lamer cries of "let us play the way we want to". In response to that I say, play how you want to, but AFKing is not playing. There will also be the cries of it does not hurt anyone. I am sorry to tell you, but it does hurt the "real" entertainers. We have watched our tips, our client base and our respect fall to such low levels that I know quite a few players who are considering dropping this game. Many people will not agree with this statement, but AFKers can be considered a form of griefing, which SOE says is not allowed, so it should be dealt with.
I was just gonna ignore this post, but I just can't pass up this paragraph.
Lamer cries, that's a good one considering this whole post of yours is nothing but a big tear fest. The biggest lamer crybabies of all are you anti-AFK folks who have a breakdown every time somebody says AFK macro.
Nice fresh angle with the whole grief thing though. Don't think I've heard anybody else make that huge leap in logic before. Alas, it matters not.Someday you will come to accept the fact thatSOE and most of the players just don't give a crap about you or AFKing.
Y'know, people make fun of this game on the forums for other mmorpgs.
Star Wars Galaxies: an Empire Away From the Keyboard.
In other games, this sort of thing would be considered cheating, exploiting the system. Cry? Claim people with sense here are crybabies. But elsewhere they're laughing at you, callingall of uslame. Other devs snicker at the thought "you just can't stop macro exploits."