Musician Archive

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Hydzar wrote:

Well even without an official dev answer, we may think a little about it.

Facts:

1) Devs set the buff to approximatevely 8-10 mns.

2) Devs give the chief profession a Twi-lek drink called T'sollok , that i appreciated a lot for two reasons. It provides us a timer, it allows time reduction for the buff.

3) Both musician and dancer buff was initially set to be granted after an entertainer performance, whichimplies agiven duration time.

So considering game mechanics,game content and flavor the instant entertainer buff soundsas an exploit. That's enough for me not to use it, and i don't need official confirmation.

I am quite aware that macro are part of the game mechanics as well. However, i consider on this point, that macro must respect the basics of the game, which means what we are able to do in the game manually. Withoutusing macromusicians are allowed to produce a flo every 7 seconds. We have the opportunity to queued 5 of them. If a macro allows us to break those basics then it's an exploit. According to the SWG Software Licence i'm asked not to use it and i accept not to use it each i time i log in the game.

AreDancer and Musician Buff too long to provide? yes!

Do i wish i can buff my friends quicker? Yes!

Will i use an exploit, or if u prefered loophole - as the bald ID process was named- to take an "legitimate"game correctionwhich i do feel is notwished bythe game devs? No.

Considering the bald ID process i mentioned, he has been fixed with the last patch.

So let's say that the instant buff may not be called an exploit, but a loophole because it is possible through a legal game mechanic. However i still believe that we shouldn't use it.

Well, the devs may not have stated a target time publicly, but they have told me on more than one occasion that they were shooting for an optimal buff time offive to sixminutes, something in that range. They couldn't be precise on how much time would be involved, probably (as you say) because the buff looks to a set number of flourishes, not a particular amount of time. Anyway, they told me that when I was asking for their comments on my buff FAQ, so although they didn't make the comments directly to the community, they did know I was going to post the substance of the comments publicly.

So I pass it on again: the devs' intention was that buffing would take roughly five to six minutes for a Master, flourishing regularly and playing an advanced song or instrument.

Tiaga and I have repeatedly asked the devs whether faster buffs are an exploit and, if so, whether they'll be nerfed. We've never had a reply. I plan to take another run at this and related buff issues (e.g., self-buffing) early next week.

Dear Fragpuppie,

First thank you very much for your comment, i appreciate it a lot.

My post wasn't a direct attack to you, and if i hurted you, i do apologise, but that wasn't my intend at all.

I 'm quite aware that considering the Instant Buff, you have the good attitue, asking a lot about its "legality". I've read all your post on the matter, as i' m also interested in morequick buff.

My post may sound naive, or paladin-like, but i'm just considering the future.

We have all experimented rudeness, and disrespect in the game. What would you think it will happened whether we give the other players the habits to have quick buff when the devs will fix it? Regardless of the flow of insults we will recieve before being able to give an explanation, this will contribute to strenghten the fact that entertainer professions are a waste of time.

That was just my real motives, when i wrote the posts.

Offended?

Not by you!

I'm just very frustrated by the Devs lack of attention. Also I'm irked that, in their attention to other classes, much of what we do have as musicians has been destroyed. The one thing we got since launch, buffs (well reworked buffs, I know they existed at launch), has been decimated by the chef revamp and introduction of the brandy. Also many side things have just made our lives harder (Holotainer AFKs, rebalancing of combat to make us even weaker with weaker weapons and pets, introduction of aggros and "crackdowns" that make it harder to survive in town and make us carry weaker weapons and armor).

I don't think that players receiving buffs will have too many issues if the 30 second, or even the 3 minute buffs dissappear. They will just look to see if its worth the time. I think everyone understands Nerfs, they won't be happy, but are they ever truly happy?

As a musician, I would be sad to see them go. There are many "ifs" though.....Do the devs consider the 30 sec to be an exploit? Do they consider the 3 min to be? Are the devs going totake them away?When? Are the buffsgoing to bestill in the same demand (I'm sure the devs will add something at some point to make them even more worthless)? And the prime question.... Do they even care?

I just asked about the speed-buff in the Correspondent Forum, in a thread in which the devs are currently active. I'm going to add another post on a related subject in a minute, so I don't think they'll miss it.

I personally don't mind the 3-minute buff, and I can even live with the 30-second buff, but I really want to know whether the devs intend to nerf it because it's not intended. And yes, it would be nice to official word on whether it's an exploit.

Bah, I say we use it. I mean, just until they fix it. If someone gets banned for doing it, we can just ask them to unban them, because there has been no ligitimate answer. If there is one, then we dont use it, and wait for them to fix it.

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Echinacea wrote:

Oh, and the patron has to drink the T'ssalok. Which no one is going to do to shave just a minute off the 3:10 timer when it's going to hose their ability to drink brandy. /rolleyes Surprise, yet another ill-conceived idea because no one on the development team is paying any attention whatsoever to performing.

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