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Thread: JustG speaks about AFK macros
Could someone post a link to this supposed article... I did a search for JustG in the 'in development' forum and came up with NOTHING that even closely looks like what is being said. Then did a search for all posts by JustG and still nothing relating to musicians and or entertainers and macros.
BUT, if you want a real post, there are plenty saying that macros that are IN GAME are ok. No 3rd party stuff, but in game macros are fine.
AFHyper wrote:
Could someone post a link to this supposed article... I did a search for JustG in the 'in development' forum and came up with NOTHING that even closely looks like what is being said. Then did a search for all posts by JustG and still nothing relating to musicians and or entertainers and macros.
BUT, if you want a real post, there are plenty saying that macros that are IN GAME are ok. No 3rd party stuff, but in game macros are fine.
Knowledge Base says otherwise, guys
Well, of course MACROs are ok, this has never been in dispute to my knowledge. The probem is UNATTENDED macros, i.e. AFK macros.
That said, I don't have time right now to look for JustG's original post, and I'm surprised (and ofcoursesomewhat offended)you believe neither my post nor the others that say things to the effect of "wow, I didn't believe this so I looked at the original post and he really did say it. horray!" Anyway, here are some things you can look for to help spot JustG's post.
1. Make sure you're searching the "In Development" forum
2. Make sure you're searching for posts from JustG
3.JustG's works are many--try looking at the dates and find ones that are from the date of my posting (I posted while it was still fresh)
4. This is not buried at the bottom with the rest of the entertainer issues mentioned, instead, it is considered to be such an important issue, it is one of the FIRST things mentioned in the post.
-Liloman Hammons, Novice Gunfighter 
*Thinks to self: Will the golden days of true, non-lamer, entertainment return as soon as he hopes?*
Well, it turned out I had more time than I originally thought, so I did a search for this "elusive" post. Typed "JustG" into the author field, selected "In Development" in the forum menu...lo and behold...it came up with only THREE posts! AFHyper? In your extensive search of the Development forum, you couldn'tmanage sift through three posts one containing two lines, another containing about 6 lines and the third containing LOADS of information? It seems rather obvious to me which one is going to mention the afk macros.
Ack! Forgive my outburst, everyone, but I can't stand it when people question the truth of my statements and don't make the slightest effort to find the information I quoted to begin with. I can understand if the information is somewhat hidden (in which case I would have posted a link) but when it is this easy to find... 
-Liloman Hammons, Novice Gunfighter
*Looks eagerly forward to a society freed from the afk-squalor it currently dwells under*
/comforts Lilo
Now, now, dear Lilo . . . not everyone knows you for the honest, upright person that many of us do.
Now, I impatiently await your return to the entertainment galaxy . . .
I know, I was just in a really bad mood this morning and had no desire to be questioned in any way. Bit some of my friends heads off too, but they managed to calm me down some. 
I too look forward to when I return to my place amongst the galaxy's entertainers. Between the removal of afk'ing and the addition of the entertainer/smuggler themepark, that day edges ever closer!
-Liloman Hammons, Novice Gunfighter
*Lilo polishes his ever-so-slightly tarnished halo...* 
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Oh, and everything I said in the posts in question is still valid, it just could have been phrased in a nicer way.
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Message Edited by Tralmek on 04-04-2004 11:07 PM
Cyriustek wrote:
Again...
If an AFK entertainer is in your group you get more XP. If they are not shouting, and are off to the side...what is the problem? This sounds like nit-picking at it's worst. This is from a person who got to Master dancer by being there the vast majority of time.
How exactly do you get MORE xp when an AFK is in your group? Or do you mean that just a "warm body" whether live or not will up the xp?
This is not nitpicking. To the contrary, I won't even go into the major NPC city cantinas anymore because of the AFK situation.Almost to a player theyspam requests for heals and tips and are rarely off to the side,instead they arefront and center - even right inside the front doorof the cantina!
You get more xp if more people are in your group and playing. As an example, I can get 20 xp in 10 s flourishing on my mandovial. Get in a group of 20 and flourish and its more like 60 xp. Of course all this depends on the song being played and the instrument being used. But yes, more people playing a song, the more xp you get.
kirah_ashlin wrote:
Cyriustek wrote:
Again...
If an AFK entertainer is in your group you get more XP. If they are not shouting, and are off to the side...what is the problem? This sounds like nit-picking at it's worst. This is from a person who got to Master dancer by being there the vast majority of time.
How exactly do you get MORE xp when an AFK is in your group? Or do you mean that just a "warm body" whether live or not will up the xp?
This is not nitpicking. To the contrary, I won't even go into the major NPC city cantinas anymore because of the AFK situation.Almost to a player theyspam requests for heals and tips and are rarely off to the side,instead they arefront and center - even right inside the front doorof the cantina!
AFHyper wrote:
You get more xp if more people are in your group and playing. As an example, I can get 20 xp in 10 s flourishing on my mandovial. Get in a group of 20 and flourish and its more like 60 xp. Of course all this depends on the song being played and the instrument being used. But yes, more people playing a song, the more xp you get.
I'm a master dancer, so yes - I know that. 
I was just making a comment about how the statement came out sounding like you get more xp because you group with AFKers . . .
I have 3 acounts. #1, Combat #2 Doc (afk buff house and raids)#3 Master Musician/Dance thats Afk buffs in are citys cantina. I do not like this idea!!!!
Frankly I don't see what is the whole fuss about AFK Macroing!!! And for all of you that say you don't do it, you lie!!!
Both times that I've been a Master Musician I've never have had any problems joining groups, making money, buffing, etc. while AFKers were around.
Plus, sometimes when your mind is shot and you're out in the middle of nowhere........the only thing you may find is an AFKer to cure your mind wounds.....thus you are only hurting those in remote locations.