Musician Archive
Thread: HOW TO AFK GRIND DANCER/MUSICAN
lemme help you with an easier macro just copy and paste this to your ui slot 00
/startmusic (highest song)
/flourish 2
/flourish 3
/flourish 4
/flourish 5
/shout im an idiot
/logout
/ui actiontoolbarslot 00
No one is forcing you to do anything. YOU made the decision to try and become a Jedi and are just looking for the quickest and easiest way to do that. The "design of the game" actually allows you to play a musician withoutEVER having to macro at all. Imaging that?
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To become a Jedi, I must master the profession declared by the holo. That was not my decision it is the devs who wrote the game that way. No, I don't want to be a musician, I want to open my fscs.
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If you read any of the messages from the Devs you will know that the Holos were NEVER meant to promote people to grind through professions in a weekend. To paraphrase them "the path to Jedi is a long and difficult one". They were meantto encourage people to PLAY the professionthe Holo suggestedtoallow them toexperience (that's EXPERIENCE, not to be confused with XP) whatdifferent professions had to offer. Obviously it has resulted in the AFK macrofest they never intended and so they are changing the system.They are changing the system because they see it as a problem. They see it as a problem because they don't want people to "play" that way.
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I strongly disagree with you here. People do what you pay them to do. If the path to Jedi is through a profession, then people are going to do that profession as quickly as possible, get to the next holo, rinse, repeat. And No, I doubt that their intent was for us to "EXPERIENCE" anything. They see it as a problem because they don't want people to "PAY" that way. Their intent was to promote long term "INTERE$T" in the game so that people would keep paying them $15 every month. By slowing down progression through the professions, they make more money before you get to actually play the game the way you want to. It's coercive and those of us that want to play a Jedi, will do whatever is necessary and we are able to do to get to OUR goal in the least amount of time possible. You'll notice that a Jedi account sells for real money on EBay, that's because it cost them real money to get there because of the hurdles placed in by the dev team. Then SOE states you cannot recoup that wasted time/money/effort by selling the account off. The only reason is that they want you to send that money to them, not compensate some other player. So everybody has to send SOE $75-$150 to actually "experience" the SWG universe, which is only unique in the fact that there are Jedi. Take the Jedi out of the universe, out of Star Wars, and it's a pretty mundane story.
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To blame the Devs for people skirting around the system is the same as robbing a bank and blaming society for forcing you to have to pay money for rent and food because you're too stupid or lazy to actually get a job. The easy path leads to the dark side.
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Okay, to lay the blame at the feet of the people that crafted the rules of the game, encoded them and then sold the results to me is the same as robbing a bank? Hello, get a grip on reality. There is no dark side, the force is the creation of a science fiction writer. Nobody is forcing the rest of the community to cover their room and board by macro'ing through a profession.
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One last thing, the reason people are so harsh to people who are deliberately trying to create a character who is never ATK is because this used to be fun profession (and still is in the right company) until our cantinas were INVADED by AFK zombies. So how nice of you, as a person who has been here one day, toproclaim everyone as being rude and obnoxious because they don't want to help you ruin their playing experience. Forget about being a Jedi and go play a profession you enjoy. If you want to be a Jedi that badly then be a man [/QUOTE]
So you are justified in being rude because we've ruined your lives. WAAAH... Last I checked, masters could put up their own cantinas. Those are not "YOUR" cantinas, nor is our presence an "invasion", that would require you had some pre-emptive right to the property. Their presence harms you in no measurable real way, especially once your XP is maxxed. You're right, I don't care about playing this profession, I prefer my TKM. now how does repeating what I've already admitted prove your position? If your just going to repeat everything I say, it's going to be a pretty lame conversation.
I don't have to forget about being a Jedi, it's my goal. If that isn't your goal, more power to you. I'm glad you've found something in the game you enjoy and want to hold on to. No AFK'er is preventing you from accomplishing your objective, yet many in these forums do want to prevent others from accomplishing theirs. Those people, you included, are selfish and rude to those that are trying to grind through quickly and get to their next holo.
[QUOTE]One last thing, the reason people are so harsh to people who are deliberately trying to create a character who is never ATK is...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Try reading some of the threads related to actually PLAYING this profession and you'll see people are quite friendly and helpful. Have you read any of those threads? Oh, right, you don't care about actually playing this profession. [/QUOTE]
Do you realize that you've admitted that you're only friendly to those that actually want to play the profession? My question still stands and accusation still stands. Where's the moderator?
up the threads especially made for this folks on the musician
and dancer boards.
There are complete threads already with lots of tricks.
And just listen for the crowd, when someone asks for
AFK Combat Macros...
Try to understand this:
The profession he wants to enjoy is Jedi. Musician is in his way.
To blame the Devs for people skirting around the system is the same as robbing a bank and blaming society for forcing you to have to pay money for rent and food because you're too stupid or lazy to actually get a job. The easy path leads to the dark side.
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Okay, to lay the blame at the feet of the people that crafted the rules of the game, encoded them and then sold the results to me is the same as robbing a bank? Hello, get a grip on reality. There is no dark side, the force is the creation of a science fiction writer. Nobody is forcing the rest of the community to cover their room and board by macro'ing through a profession.
That's called an analogy. In case you're not clear on that here is the definition:
So you are justified in being rude because we've ruined your lives. WAAAH... Last I checked, masters could put up their own cantinas. Those are not "YOUR" cantinas, nor is our presence an "invasion", that would require you had some pre-emptive right to the property. Their presence harms you in no measurable real way, especially once your XP is maxxed.
No AFK'er is preventing you from accomplishing your objective
As a side note, back in beta I never bothered to try any of the entertainer professions because I didn't see how anything could be more boring than hanging out in a cantina all day waiting for people to come in and get healed. Then when I bought the game I figured I'd give it shot since I'm a musician in real life. Turns out some of the most fun times I've had in this game have happened while hanging out in the cantina playing music because in the end it's about the people you are playing with that make the game fun.
I couldn't help but read the this whole thread. I am not a musician or dance (nor have I grinded it) but I like to read about all profession to get a feel for them. I for one understand your concern guys, this is one of the few REAL role playing profs in the game. And when I started out I always loved talking to dancers in the cantina.
BUT I don't NOT care for the flaming you do on the people that come in here asking question, sure I know you hate the AFK:ers more than anything, but rest a assured that it will be gone in a few months, why not just help the people move on. Flaming a person asking a question is not ANYTHING else but rude, you are taking out all your anger against this one guy, he hasn't done anything towards you, he might not even be on your server.
Just make a sticky and explain the macro's required to master the prof as fast as possible to get rid of the hologrinders cluttering up your board. Many other profession board has done this and it is a good way to cut down on the postings from grinders.
Also, there still is opportunities to roleplay. Just don't sit in Coronet cantina. Go out to some of the outpost and roleplay there. I have meet quite a few ATK dancers/musicians in the outpost and we have had a good laugh or two together. Try and make the best of a nasty situation.
Take care guys. I hope it will all be better soon. Try and hang in there.
//Tenjiwi
Come back and give us your opinion when someone figures out how to afk macro everything you do and drives your lil shop SW of Theed out of business... Intill then you have no clue how we feel.
At that point you won't be so fast to suggest we make posts "How to drive us out of our own cantinas and possibly the game". At that point you will see just how foolish even suggesting that is. When your Master Architect and Tailor means nothing and someone suggests you do it for RP purposes. Then you will see what a cut that is. Then we will see how you take it, if it makes you bitter.
Message Edited by Mariki on 05-06-2004 07:22 AM
indeed may i suggest that anyone looking for somewhere to play comes to my cantina in Haven on Farstar....Afk'ers are banned there.
After all if i want to do something AFK i just go to coronet.
Let's for a moment look back at when the game went live. No one at that point in time knew that mastering umpteen professions is how you unlocked your Jedi slot. People happily and merrily went about their day, playing professions they enjoyed.
In those golden days of SWG, cantinas were a pleasurable place to hang out. Heck, even Dearic on Talus had a musician or two hanging out in the cantina every day.
Holocrons as a hint to your jedi slot did not enter the picture until several months after the game had been released. During those months, speculation ran rampant on these forums; everyone had thier own theories on how it would happen. Eventually a handful of people were really close to unlocking thier slots, and the DEVs were getting very excited. However, they were uncomfortable with the amount of time it was taking them, so they released Holocrons in to the game as a "hint" to help players along.
Now, until this point, the DEVs obviously knew how the jedi slot would work. They chose not to release this information. Why? Because the idea was that you would unlock your slot after trying out the other professions. They didn't want you to grind through endless professions trying to become a jedi, they wanted you to have fun and experience the game, and then find out that, "YAY! I unlocked my jedi slot! I don't know how, but I did it!"
Keeping all this in mind, if you want to grind through professions to become a jedi, that's your choice. Becoming a Jedi is not the goal of Star Wars: Galaxies. This is a role-playing game. Out of all the professions to choose from, chances are there are one or two that you'd really enjoy, and that's what you should be doing. Play the game how you want to play it. Decide what would be the most fun foryou and do that.
A lot of people that hologrind don't even realize that they might not like being a Jedi once they make it there. These people tend to think that hologrinding is just how you play the game. These people look at me like I'm out of my mind when I try to roleplay, because they don't think I'm playing the game right. It drives me mad, I tell you.
I bought this game a few weeks after release. I decided I wanted to become a Droid Engineer. I also picked up all the other novice professions except for medic. Artisan is the only profession I've mastered. I was going to become a Master Droid Engineer and a Master Fencer, but decided I like the social aspects of the game more than the combat, so I dropped fencer and furthered my musicianship.
Right now I'm 4/2/4/3 in Musician and 3/3/2/3 in Droid Engineering. I haven't grinded anything... I'm just playing the game. I've sold nearly everything I've built as a DE and most of the notes I've played as a musician have actually been listenned to by someone. I'm having fun. I could care less about being a Jedi, especially if it means that I have to stop having fun because the professions I like won't get me there.
So the hostility in this forums stem from the fact that typically the people that pop in to the forums asking how to grind it just don't understand that some people actually chose this profession. They come in asking, "What's the quickest way I can get this stinking profession out of my way?" and the people that care about this profession take it personally.
Do you really blame them?
