Musician Archive
Thread: Ok, if everyone says i cant afk.. why do they?
Waho wrote:
LordTigris wrote:
DenisaGalen wrote:
There's no contradiction, as entertainer you choose to flourish for 4 hours so the least you can do is be there while you are doing it. Why else did you pick entertainer ?
And I cannot fix this, I can leave when someone decides to afk bot in my favorite place right in front of the stairs there, but I can NOT fix it. I can only refuse the guild he is a part of, denyservice all their members, just like I removed their tailorshop location from my list of tailors on my server.
Sounds like a fix to me.
That fixes nothing.
See with call this a disagreement on opinions. But I call it a fix because she did something other than complain. It is the dance/music community against every other profession when it comes to macros and afk. This community is divided at best. Does anyone actually expect the devs to listen to half a community over the rest of the player base?? Reality bites, but you adapt and overcome or be run over.
nvoigt wrote:
AFK entertainers are not what gives the professions a bad name.They dont help the image but they didnt cause it.
If someone I never met thinks lowly of my master title because chances are I have not done anything to earn it, then macroboting is the only thing that caused it.
I just dont see where youguys are finding these people who think like this. Most people I know dont give a flip how I got my Master title (and I dont give a flip how they got theirs), they just want to be healed or buffed as it is now. I botted and was at the keyboard to make MM and ME and now that I have attained it I never afk. Why? Because Im not grinding thru xp anymore. The songs and instuments I play doesnt matter now. Would I bot again to help boost a groups xp, hell yeh. The only people I encounter that are vocally anti-afk are the ones on this board.
And to the person that thought killing stuff for 4hrs is any different than flourishing...it aint. I come from Everquest and I am sick the hell of killing stuff. When I try to go out and be a hunter in SWG, I usually find myself back in the cantinas. I have found that the only thing I really like about most of these games is the dialogue between other players (contradiction? no, I afked to grind xp when not at home or busy with real life).
A side note: after making ME and getting the mando, I actually love playing SW1. That guitar lick sounds just like the song Rollercoaster from 70's soul,LOL. SOE needs to have more guitar sounds for Mando, the violin is ok but the guitar is my preference.
I just dont see where youguys are finding these people who think like this.
Well, you see, there are those buildings called cantinas... Maybe you have not witnessed the atmosphere before Macrotaining began, but there was more respect, even from Bounty Hunters to Novice Entertainers. Respect and Fun. Thats what this game should be about.
nvoigt wrote:
I just dont see where youguys are finding these people who think like this.
Well, you see, there are those buildings called cantinas... Maybe you have not witnessed the atmosphere before Macrotaining began, but there was more respect, even from Bounty Hunters to Novice Entertainers. Respect and Fun. Thats what this game should be about.
Been playin since day one almost and I thinkwhat you are experiencing is the newness wearing off. Like I said, I played Everquest since day one and I remember back when bards used to actually do concerts (yeh I know, hard to believe). Mention bards doin concerts there now and you're likely to get laughed at, S_T_F_U'ed and put on 30 ignore lists. hehe
Respect is earned really. You might see my character with afk over his head and think to yourself that guy is a straight up loser with no dignity, but if you had wandered in while I was a my keyboard and in a talkative mood you would have thought just the opposite.
No onegets automatic respect and no profession for that matter. You just be the best entertainer you can be and stop worrying about what swordsmen and pistoleers think about all the entertainers in the game. If you're doing things right, respect is a guarantee.
Respect is earned really.
When I see a master rifleman, I think he knows his stuff. When I see a Master Dancer, I'm not so sure. I met one recently, who asked my alt ( Master Marksman title ) to train her. When we agreed to meet at the bank, I told her I couldn't train her and what she expected me to train. Pistol Grips II. Even thought I had never had this skill, I told her it's a Pistoleer skill and I am no pistoleer. She proceeded to ask who could train her. I told her ( again ) that only an other pistoleer can train this skill. She'd probably know this very basic stuff if she wasn't marcoing away and getting all their training from the people next to her without ever listening to customers.
Respect is earned. But I hate to get more respect with no title than with Master [any Entertainer] from the start. That's wrong.
nvoigt wrote:
Respect is earned really.
When I see a master rifleman, I think he knows his stuff. When I see a Master Dancer, I'm not so sure. I met one recently, who asked my alt ( Master Marksman title ) to train her. When we agreed to meet at the bank, I told her I couldn't train her and what she expected me to train. Pistol Grips II. Even thought I had never had this skill, I told her it's a Pistoleer skill and I am no pistoleer. She proceeded to ask who could train her. I told her ( again ) that only an other pistoleer can train this skill. She'd probably know this very basic stuff if she wasn't marcoing away and getting all their training from the people next to her without ever listening to customers.
Respect is earned. But I hate to get more respect with no title than with Master [any Entertainer] from the start. That's wrong.
So if she was using one of her other titles and asked the same question then she would have just been clueless. But because she had her Master Dancer title up now she is assumed to be this way because she afked her way to master. Come on now.
I also know a Master Dancer that never macroed (didnt even know it was possible) and had never used a weapon before in game ever(thats right all her time spent entertaining and she had a ton of cash to boot...dancers, sheesh!).She was clueless as to how melee went. Did I think little of her because of it? No, it just wasnt her thing, and she cared nothing of how it worked.
Face it, its just other entertainers that have a problem with afking (entertainers and what they think other people think).
Sneeki2 wrote:
nvoigt wrote:Respect is earned really.
Face it, its just other entertainers that have a problem with afking (entertainers and what they think other people think).
Wrong !
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=725853
DenisaGalen wrote:
Sneeki2 wrote:
nvoigt wrote:
Respect is earned really.
Face it, its just other entertainers that have a problem with afking (entertainers and what they think other people think).
Wrong !
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=725853
Most in that thread dont really care if you are afk or not. If you are there you get a tip, if not you usually wont. That makes sense to me. It is what I did in my marksman days. When I macroed it was not for tips it wasstrictly to grind xp. Idid have marksman skills and I'd just go out do missions if I was strapped for cash. Im telling you, this topic is irrelevant for the majority of the people who play this game.
But I do respect your position as a roleplayer and one who is trying to keep the magic of the game alive. Jam on Denisa.
Bowie Pax (Wanderhome) Master Entertainer/Master Musician/Apprentice Sharpshooter/One hella cool guy