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Thread: When is the Entertainer Quest going Live?

Warryyr
Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:52 am
#1

Aleyo
Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:14 pm
#3


Electro wrote:
Given past experience, you may choose your answer from the following choices!
a) Never
b) Before it works properly
c) After JtL
Enjoy!




These aren't mutually exclusive: you could, for example, add another option
d) both (b) and (c)

Message Edited by Aleyo on 09-23-2004 03:14 PM




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Warryyr
Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:58 pm
#4

Well, I PM'd Tiggs, Thunderheart, and Chrysalide (Dev who started the Feedback thread on our Quests) and asked them to please get into the thread, as we have serious issues to address with the Quest.


If nothing further is said in the Feedback thread, shame on the Dev team.


If I can't even get a simple answer to when this Quest is going Live, something is horribly wrong. If it's the broken dance, then they had months and months and months to realize the new dance had the same problem as Lyrical and Formal. This isn't a new error, it's just the same error they've been making on 3 dances now. If they're taking more time to fix the dance, TELL US. If they're reconsidering the xp requirement, TELL US.


First it was 10.2 - then 10.2 wasn't really 10.2, oh no - our quest is in 10.3 - but then 10.3 comes and goes with no word.


We deserve better.

Fragpuppie
Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:35 pm
#5






Warryyr wrote:


First it was 10.2 - then 10.2 wasn't really 10.2, oh no - our quest is in 10.3 - but then 10.3 comes and goes with no word.




Well I was gonna add my thought that it was ORIGINALLY supposed to be someplace in Pub 9....


I made a mistake though, and its depressing.....(presses the button on the Wayback Machine set for Pre Pub 8.1....Maybe late Mayish)


Gary Gattis's State of the Game Letter wrote:

Hutt Casino: This is a major Social Adventure geared towards Dancers, Musicians, and fast-talking Smugglers. It is also going to be a great place just to hang out. It was moved from Publish 9 to Publish 10 because our art resources will be cranking on Space during that time.


(Runs screaming back to the present)



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Electro
Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:43 am
#6

Given past experience, you may choose your answer from the following choices!


a) Never

b) Before it works properly

c) After JtL


Enjoy!
NewJedi
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:46 am
#7

I'm trying to find out what the plans are. The devs are clearly concerned about the new dance. If they hold up the dance, they will have to hold up our quests too.
Warryyr
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:29 am
#8






NewJedi wrote:

I'm trying to find out what the plans are. The devs are clearly concerned about the new dance. If they hold up the dance, they will have to hold up our quests too.







That's cool, thanks for the info.


The only question I have is if they are, in fact, concerned about the new dance. We haven't heard anything from them regarding that. All those dancers in that Feedback Thread don't even know if their feedback was of any value to anyone, or whether anyone read it. It's well past the time for someone from the Dev team to get in there and just say, "We're looking into the dance problem."


Is that really so hard?


A Jedi issue regarding Whip's quest was asked 3 days or so after our Feedback Thread got posted. That got a reply from Thunderheart today that they're looking into it.


I fail to see why we're being left in limbo or don't deserve validation for our feedback.


I am still waiting for a proper explanation of the xp requirement. The excuse of needing a cost for the song/dance is nonsensical. Completing the quest is the cost. If the Devs think their own quest isn't enough to provide a reward for, that's their problem, not ours. They've had lots of time for working on this or adding more to it. Penalizing us for their lack of content is a terrible way to treat us. I don't play this game to make up for Devs' slack. I'm sorry, but that's how I feel. I feel like I need to toot away on my little horn because the Devs think their own quest isn't good enough to reward a song or dance. That's not right.


NewJedi
Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:52 pm
#9

Warryyr,the song is the most significant content we've gotten in a year. Do you seriously expect the devs to give it away in an hour-long quest? Sure, I wish the quest had 15 legs and took five days to complete. I'd love that. But there are a couple reasons it's not: (1) We'd have waited another year for it; and (2) Even if the devs had spent the extra year doing it, peoplestill would've complained about them. The solution they came up with -- shorter, fun quest, plus XP requirement -- gives us the song sooner, and it's a reasonable compromise: amix of quest and XP.


In every MMMORPG I've played, the most important rewards require an investment of time, usually in the form of XP. Your main argument seems to be: other professions in SWG don't have XP requirements for "extra" content. But they are starting to get them, in Jedi, and more are coming.


As for the dance, best to take that up with Panthu in her forum.
Ravanne_Esi
Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:12 pm
#10






NewJedi wrote:

Warryyr,the song is the most significant content we've gotten in a year. Do you seriously expect the devs to give it away in an hour-long quest?





After more than a year of ignoring us and leaving us with broken and unfinished dancesand no new music? I expect them to give us the dance and music, I expect it to work and I expect them to get down on their knees and kiss our hawt-panted butts for it taking so long and being so little. What we are getting, if we ever get it, is too little too late.



Ravanne Esi
Master Dancer, Master Entertainer, Master Musician
Ragin' Rancor Enterprises
New Hope, Naboo
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fett3041
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:16 pm
#11






NewJedi wrote:

Warryyr,the song is the most significant content we've gotten in a year. Do you seriously expect the devs to give it away in an hour-long quest? Sure, I wish the quest had 15 legs and took five days to complete. I'd love that. But there are a couple reasons it's not: (1) We'd have waited another year for it; and (2) Even if the devs had spent the extra year doing it, peoplestill would've complained about them. The solution they came up with -- shorter, fun quest, plus XP requirement -- gives us the song sooner, and it's a reasonable compromise: amix of quest and XP.


In every MMMORPG I've played, the most important rewards require an investment of time, usually in the form of XP. Your main argument seems to be: other professions in SWG don't have XP requirements for "extra" content. But they are starting to get them, in Jedi, and more are coming.


As for the dance, best to take that up with Panthu in her forum.






How much XP/skills/etc are we going to have to give up for the Hutt Casino? This isn't significant content, this is a bone they've thrown us, and the marrow is missing. This is a MUCH overdue spur to keep Entertainers interested in playing.


I do expect the devs to give us a new song/dance in an hour long quest. Took me less than that to finish the Scythe quest. For 'significant content', I would be more than happy to have a higher cost. But if this is what they think 'significant content' is for us, I have little hope for the future.





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the Wisdom to discover the Right,
the Will to choose it,
and the Strength to make it endure.
Echinacea
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:26 pm
#12






Ravanne_Esi wrote:



NewJedi wrote:

Warryyr,the song is the most significant content we've gotten in a year. Do you seriously expect the devs to give it away in an hour-long quest?




After more than a year of ignoring us and leaving us with broken and unfinished dancesand no new music? I expect them to give us the dance and music, I expect it to work and I expect them to get down on their knees and kiss our hawt-panted butts for it taking so long and being so little. What we are getting, if we ever get it, is too little too late.



Man, I wish I were capable of beingthat succinct. Um...what she said! 'Cept I don't like wearing hotpants. They can kiss my tchun-tchin.




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LeBob
Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:51 pm
#13

Echinacea, do you have a single SEA for that 25% bonus to musical mind enhancement or a few combined?



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