Musician Archive
Thread: Idea: Performance Recording Track
N0stalgia wrote:
let me start off by saying this, AFK entertainers drive me insane...... I was thinking, maybe droid engineers would be able to produce a moderate-cost droid that would allow dancers/musicians to store their performances into the droid and have the droid owner play them back at their leasure, now as we all know no one buys stuff from you unless you are a master, so I thought maybe your stored performances could also give us mind buffs? maybe at 80% of the original buff the master would be able to give you in person, and maybe it could heal wounds and BF at 80% give or take.... I think it would be a good idea, and it would help boost the entertainers and the DE economy
Message Edited by Jjiaah on 11-13-2004 09:27 PM
fett3041 wrote:
Well put, Dina.
The only way I would want to see recordings of any kind is if they gave very limited healing, and ZERO buff.
While the original post does not provide for that condition, the mini-proposal I made afterwards follows it exactly. Limited healing, and no buffs.
I have read through all of the responses, though it appears to me that emphasis was placed on the original idea, and the mini-proposal was mostly ignored. I will try to explain more here how the mini-proposal fits the above conditions and hope it inspires others to read through more thoroughly.
Thehealing is 40% of theskill with which a Master can heal... *unmodified*. So, every Master is in the same boat, regardless of CA's. Even a novice will have a market at 40% healing as they would likely sell them cheaper and younger players would buy them. It's only one person at a time. No buying a recording and playing it to heal your entire group. With duration and / or use limits and the dimished healing, it would not be a cure-all for those in the field. Also, this means it can never replace an entertainer. The speed withwhich BF / wounds are removed via a recorded performance, would make it such thaton any populated planet it would be much faster to seek out an entertainer. I know very few people who would rather sit in a camp for 20-40 minutes than run to a cantina. Even a novice Dancer / Musician is faster than that.
Where the benifits to such a thing come in is on remote worlds.It would be a way to remove BF / wounds in a camp etc on places like Endor where entertainers are extremely scarce, while still providing an entertainer with exp and income.I personally would rather buy a 5k-10k performance to carry with me to Endor than have to travel back to wherever, hope I can find an entertainer (or travel via swoop / shuttle to where I know one is), then travel back. While granted JTL makes the travel alot easier, there is never a guarantee to find an entertainer immediately. While buff bots are typically consistant for when they are around, they're not guaranteed. And rarely do you find a buffbot in a major NPC city (at least on my server).
Additionally, it allows that pure crafter that died 2-3 times trying to check a harvester to continue crafting while healing their BF / wounds. Sitting in a cantina / med center can take a huge chunk out of their time being non-productive, and productivity is the vast majority of their income. True, with a droid a crafter can work in a cantina, but only to a degree. Eventually inventory gets full and they have to stop. 160 items is the max any one single person can ever carry (60 normal, 50 pack, 50 droid). Now you take into account tools, resources, and crates and you can carve away 10-40 of those spots off the bat minimum. That is assuming they have a full 160 that is completely empty and devoted to this task. I run full at 50 in backpack, 40 in inventory, and 20 in droids (maxed). I use everything on me on a regular basis. That's 20 spots left open. As a DE, that fills up in a heartbeat with sub-components for a single droid, then the droids themselves. I'm sureit can be seen by now where I'm going with this.
I hope that the above explanations have cleared things up a bit, and help gain additional support.
PS. I don't ever take constructive criticisms as rudeness etc. There's little point to making a post like this if the only feedback is positive while there are obvious negatives. I appreciate and accept well thought out concerns, con's, etc. Thus far, I believe they are and have no complaints 
Message Edited by Jjiaah on 11-13-2004 09:23 PM
Goldshadow wrote:
My problems with this are twofold.
First is that I don't see a way to layer the tracks. What I mean is that you only get one instrument at a time. If we could record them as a band, maybe.
Second is that it leaves the the other performance entertainers out of the loop. I understand the difficulties in programming it so I know why it's not included. If the Dancers could be tossed a similar 'gift' it might not be so bad.
I suppose it may be possible to record as a band, and split the usage exp. The downside to this is the healing benifits then approach that of alive Master Musician / Dancer as opposed tothe diminished healing. That could potentially saturate the market in a hurry and cause a replacement for entertainers. That needs to be avoided. This is intended to be a supplement and player aid, not an entertainer replacement.
Dancer gets the exact same thing.The Entertainer professionis not included for essentially the same reasons that an Entertainer can not use a Playback module, or an Effects module, in a droid. Perhaps a Master Entertainer could be given a similar ability, though I don't see a need for it. Very few people are Master Entertainers without being at least Novice Dancer or Novice Musician.
MusicalDina wrote:
Any healing would replace entertainers. I can see your point as to why you would like this, but in my view i dont like it.
Offhand re-reading it, you can only use it where entertainers can go anyways. If you have to stop hunting go back to town just to use it, why not just go all the way to get healed? It would end up being useless if this happened. You cant heal BF anywhere but in a cantina, so using it out in a camp wouldnt help you much.
As far as replacing entertainers, just sitting in a medical center heals wounds whether there is a medic / doctor there or not. That doesn't replace medics / doctors. People still seek them out because it's much faster and more efficient. Not to mention a Doc / Medic can simply pull out a droid and heal everything anywhere. Entertainers have no such luxury. This helps to even the playing field by allowing entertainers to gain exp / money in a venue outside of a cantina.
There are many player cities with a cantina that sits empty 99% of the time. If someone could pop into their local cantina that's empty and play a recording, then these structures may actually get some use. With increased use, a live entertainer may take up active performances in them. An increase in prosperous locations can only be a benifit to the entertaining professions.