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Thread: New Quests, Ridiculous Wait Times

Kraftomatic
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:24 am
#1

NewJedi, can we please get a fix to the entertainer quests?


Today I was trying to earn Popularity Level 2 for the next stage of the quest. (Perform for 20 players). After being in the cantina for about an hour and a half, and performing for 20 people; I made my way to the Coronet theatre.


I converse with the manager,tell her I am ready, and she says I have 150 seconds to be on stage.


I run out into the audience and converse with almost all of the audience members to find out what they likeor do not like.


I'm running toward the stage, and I see "Youhave 10 secondsto be on stage."


I run on to the stage then see [FAILURE] flash across the screen, and the audience despawns and disappears.


I walk over to theTheatre manager, who tells me I can try again, in TWENTYFOUR HOURS.This is really unnecessary and unproductive / lame / boring.


I entertained forabout30people today, traveling to Eisely, Bestine, and Dantooine, then fail stage 2 all because I was .00001 seconds late, and then I have to wait until tomorrow to have a second chance? Why? This is worse than the 10 minute image design timer.
Kraftomatic
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:40 am
#2

I could see waiting 24 hours for a Jedi quest or some other extremely high end content, like certain spawns.


But to have to wait 24 hours to play a song again? What was the reasoning behind this? Why does everything have to be a time sink now?
Willforce
Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:06 pm
#3

Failed the first pefromance since I was unable to find the fav song or disliked flourish
2 min to talk to the crowd is unreal
hell some of the crowd was spawning in 10 sec before the performance started,probably lag related.
very poorly implemented quest :/



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Fragpuppie
Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:58 pm
#4






Kraftomatic wrote:

I converse with the manager,tell her I am ready, and she says I have 150 seconds to be on stage.


I run out into the audience and converse with almost all of the audience members to find out what they likeor do not like.


I'm running toward the stage, and I see "Youhave 10 secondsto be on stage."


I run on to the stage then see [FAILURE] flash across the screen, and the audience despawns and disappears.


I walk over to theTheatre manager, who tells me I can try again, in TWENTYFOUR HOURS.This is really unnecessary and unproductive / lame / boring.


I entertained forabout30people today, traveling to Eisely, Bestine, and Dantooine, then fail stage 2 all because I was .00001 seconds late, and then I have to wait until tomorrow to have a second chance? Why? This is worse than the 10 minute image design timer.







Let me first state that I do not feel the quests are that thrilling to begin with, however, the 24 hour delay is in there for a reason, maybe a few reasons.


If there was no delay, then people would just keep trying the quest again and again until they passed. Don't believe me...well it happened on testcenter when we were testing without delays. Also, there needs to be some penalty for failure. Personally I prefer a delay rather than having to do the promotion again or something like that. Is the delay extreme....maybe, but I do not have statistics on how many people are doing the quests, and as performances are one at a time, there could be a backlog of people waiting for their moment on the stage if the delay is too short.


Regarding audience showing up over time, some right before the performance starts.....that is one of the few realistic things that I have seen implemented in the game. Its only slightly off due to the fact that most people arrive in those last seconds, and many after the show starts. It keeps you on your toes trying to find and speak to them or it forces you to find a friend to talk to them during the performance. The audience is supposed to provide hints, speaking their preferences off a random table. They are not supposed to guarentee a perfect performance everytime.


Finally, does it suck that you missed by seconds, possibly entirely due to lag, YES. However, you receive updates on the timer at 30 second intervals for the entire time and then 10 second intervals for the last 30......there was plenty of warning, and personally I know that lag can be an issue, so I make sure I am where I need to be when that timer expires....even if that means I have to get there a little early.



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LeBob
Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:58 pm
#5


Well I personally like it. (I seem to always be the Devil's advocate in the forums. )


Because, I think it adds more tension and realism to the performance. If it was not in there, everyone would just take the audition... not take it seriously... spam a bunch of macros.......... fail, /rinse;/repeat until they succeed, and that would be lame.


imho





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NewJedi
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:01 pm
#6

Also, one can query the audience even from stage, by targeting the person and typing /conv. A /conv hotkey might help. I did this even while I was performing, though I confess it didn't elicit any new information for me.


I also failed the quest once, but I didn't mind the 24 hour wait. (I failed it once or twice on TC too, but I just stood there hogging the theater until I got it right, since the wait wasn't implemented yet.) I guess I'd have been annoyed if it had been several 24 hour waits. I'm happy to ask the devs for their rationale.


Incidentally, one of the current round of FS quests involves *three* enforced twenty-four waits.
Kraftomatic
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:10 pm
#7






NewJedi wrote:


Incidentally, one of the current round of FS quests involves *three* enforced twenty-four waits.






Anything to extend subscriptions.....
LeBob
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:11 pm
#8






Kraftomatic wrote:





NewJedi wrote:


Incidentally, one of the current round of FS quests involves *three* enforced twenty-four waits.






Anything to extend subscriptions.....






/lame



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Kraftomatic
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:13 pm
#9

I'm not denying the fact that you should have to wait.....I'm just saying the wait should be reduced a little. Like to 6 hours.


There isn't just one theatre....plenty of planets and cities have theatres, so the overcrowding issue isn't even real, and since the performances only last 2 minutes, I'm sure no one would have a problem waiting for someone else to finish, or just go to another theatre if they can't wait 2 minutes.
LeBob
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:17 pm
#10

lol, I can't even begin to imagine who twice one-starred me.... you must have two accounts


good day



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"Every single Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic. Do what must be done. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy."
-I support ATK people and playstyles.
Account cancelled as of June 23, 2005

LeBob
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:19 pm
#11






LeBob wrote:


Well I personally like it. (I seem to always be the Devil's advocate in the forums. )


Because, I think it adds more tension and realism to the performance. If it was not in there, everyone would just take the audition... not take it seriously... spam a bunch of macros.......... fail, /rinse;/repeat until they succeed, and that would be lame.


imho








Go ahead.... counter my argument........ don't just be a coward one-star ninja...



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"Every single Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic. Do what must be done. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy."
-I support ATK people and playstyles.
Account cancelled as of June 23, 2005

LeBob
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:21 pm
#12

LOL


I'm thrilled to see that you took the time out of your busy day to visit my User Tracker and one-star a few pages of my posts!



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"Every single Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic. Do what must be done. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy."
-I support ATK people and playstyles.
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Kraftomatic
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:25 pm
#13

don't know what your talking about, i turned the star rating system off 6 weeks ago, and I'm running two clients of SWG at once buffing my main.
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