Merchant Archive
Thread: Master Merchant why? Holo told me too...
i see the point of merchants in the game, but to the combat boys doing it for holo it really sucks balls.
MasterTitas wrote:
Does anyone xp merchant for fun? I cant see why. This is the most disturbing profession that I have been faced with yet. I just know some dev. is sitting at home and laughing it up. We all know that the xploit for master merchant in one night is gone. But even though I am against xploits.. i probably would have used this one, now that I know what I am in for. Luckily I have a very good weaponsmith friend who made me an admin to his casa and let me put up a vendor to replace his. Even with thatI have not yet made novice merchant..Im like 1500 of 5000 for novice, (has only been one night). I hear that solo you can spend 21 days on this. Does anyone have some words of wisdom for someone who doesnt care about this profession and would rather be killing/grinding forthe xp instead of osmosis? SWG has had many problems to date..but none that i havent been able to overcome, or deal with. Should this be the one to finally make me quit? or is there another way? Serious answers appreciated!
First if you can't wait for Merchant XP in order to become a jedi you don't deserve to become one to begin with. If it is worth getting it is worth waiting a few days on. Go do something else while your vendors sit idly giving you XP for doing Nothing.
There are ways to gain it faster and those are outlined in our guide. Using the Entry fee to your advantage can help speed things up. But you are NOT going to Master Merchant in 6 hours without an exploit or a cheat of some kind.
You get 150 xp per hour per vendor. You get 1 vendor at Busineess III and another one at Novice Merchant.. and one each for the 4 Management Boxes. Do the math yourself and you'll what the time frame is.
First of all, I don't give a **edit** about your holocron.
Second, I'm a merchant because it what I most want to do with my time in SWG - it's what I love to do.
Third, this is the forum for those of us, like myself, who chose to be merchants because we enjoy it. Don't come in here as an outsider and insult those of us who are here by choice.
Fourth, anyone who would gring through random professions to be a jedi is an idiot! Yeah, it's the path that SOE designed, but it doesn't make you any less of an idiot for agreeing to do it.
Fifth, you any every other lame-brained, holocron-drone, profession-tourist needs to get the **edit** out of our forum.
i myself, personal wanted to be a action type character, but my guild needed an armorsmith, so I took one for the team. I had just enough skill points to be a SL, but you know what then how the hell was I going to sell my armor?? SO I then choose to become a merchant. I gotta say merchant grinding is WAAAYYY better then armorsmith grinding. I enjoy merchant, and I feel for the people that try to grind it to get jedi, "gotta catch them all.... HOLOCRON" because this isnt a proffession that you can grind over night (sure its possible, but hard to do. with each passing day I am really digging merchant, Hell I am even liking it more then armorsmith. I especially like how I get female twi"lik vendors and put on sleezy outfits so I can get more customers.... LOL, typical star wars fashion...
Faellyn wrote:
First of all, I don't give a **edit** about your holocron.
Second, I'm a merchant because it what I most want to do with my time in SWG - it's what I love to do.
Third, this is the forum for those of us, like myself, who chose to be merchants because we enjoy it. Don't come in here as an outsider and insult those of us who are here by choice.
Fourth, anyone who would gring through random professions to be a jedi is an idiot! Yeah, it's the path that SOE designed, but it doesn't make you any less of an idiot for agreeing to do it.
Fifth, you any every other lame-brained, holocron-drone, profession-tourist needs to get the **edit** out of our forum.
wow some one needs to do some yoga... Dont blame the player blame the game. Its retarded people have to play a proffesion they dont want to, but its not their fault. Some people have goals of becoming a jedi and unfortunately this has become the first step for some of us.
No one is saying Merchants sucks, I personally love the fact the game is set up with a true player economy so I think Merchants rock. But maybe Merchant isnt for him or me for that matter.
Tossing insults isn't neccessary, I can empathize that the initial post wasn't PC but he wasn't throwing the attitude in the above post, I think you need to take a stress break or something.
Netwalker wrote:
And to set the record straight its not random professions its targeted, thats why the holocrons are so important.
The selection of them appears to be random when your character is created. The Holocrons simply prevent you from having to master 33 professions in order to get your FS Slot.
Faellyn,
No disrespect intended, but I think that you could be a little more receptive to the plight of other people who are directed to master this profession as they progress on their way to a FSCS. I am not the original poster, but I too am faced with the prospect of mastering the merchant profession as I progress on my path to a FSCS. The choice to open up the FSCS was mine, but the choice of which professions to master was not. This inability to determine how I can play the game to open the FSCS is frustrating and can be even more difficult when someone who had hoped for combat professions to master is required to master a profession based on finance.
I have done nothing but read posts in the merchant forum for the past three weeks to find information which would help me along my path of mastering merchant. I have read countlesshelpful posts about how to best gather the XP to reach master merchant as well as bugs to be aware of. I have also found the vast majority of 'true' merchants understanding of the plight of the FSCS-wannabes. I appreciate all the hard work put forth to organize information to master this profession in the most efficient ways possible, and I hope that these people know that we all appreciate the time they have spent making it easier for us to play the game.
My point. I believe that all players who wish to pursue the FSCS need to understand that this may entail mastering professions which they may not have ever pursued if there was no FSCS. At the same time, 'true'profession playersshould be aware that the FSCS-wannabes (myself included) have no other place to go for information other than the profession-specific forums. For the most part, we don't want to grief any of the 'true' profession posters. We are just frustrated in the mechanics of the game which have forced us to be somewhere we would not choose to be.
Anastonia wrote:
Faellyn,
No disrespect intended, but I think that you could be a little more receptive to the plight of other people who are directed to master this profession as they progress on their way to a FSCS. I am not the original poster, but I too am faced with the prospect of mastering the merchant profession as I progress on my path to a FSCS. The choice to open up the FSCS was mine, but the choice of which professions to master was not. This inability to determine how I can play the game to open the FSCS is frustrating and can be even more difficult when someone who had hoped for combat professions to master is required to master a profession based on finance.
I have done nothing but read posts in the merchant forum for the past three weeks to find information which would help me along my path of mastering merchant. I have read countlesshelpful posts about how to best gather the XP to reach master merchant as well as bugs to be aware of. I have also found the vast majority of 'true' merchants understanding of the plight of the FSCS-wannabes. I appreciate all the hard work put forth to organize information to master this profession in the most efficient ways possible, and I hope that these people know that we all appreciate the time they have spent making it easier for us to play the game.
My point. I believe that all players who wish to pursue the FSCS need to understand that this may entail mastering professions which they may not have ever pursued if there was no FSCS. At the same time, 'true'profession playersshould be aware that the FSCS-wannabes (myself included) have no other place to go for information other than the profession-specific forums. For the most part, we don't want to grief any of the 'true' profession posters. We are just frustrated in the mechanics of the game which have forced us to be somewhere we would not choose to be.
That is well written and I can even understand it. However if you place yourself in our shoes you would have to endure reading the same question over and over and over again for weeks and months. The answers are all there in the Guide. The answers are all here in the dozens of other posts. It is frustrating to those of us who are playing a merchant becasue we choose to.
It is also frustrating to have people come into the forum ask how to quickly master the profession we are working hard at and then insult the profession and make demands that it be changed because they have no patience.
The profession is what it is. Our requests for changes do not include making it easier for Jedi wannabes to master the profession. We are far more interested in making changes to benefit those players who are merchants because they choose to be.
So I would ask anyone who wants information about the profession to read the guide. And read the other posts about how to get xp and ask a new question only if they can't find the answer. Just dropping in and posting the obligatory "how do i get xp quick" post just makes it harder for us to talk about the issues we need to talk about and it is just frustrating reading the same question over and over again.
DocSavag,
You are 100% correct.
In fact, Iwas originally tempted to make the typical '@#&! Holocron Told Me To Master Merchant' post when I first got it. But then I heard that ghostly voice... 'Luke... Use the FAQ, Luke.' Next thing you know, I've found all the information that I needed to master the profession without bothering another person with posting information that is already here.
So yes, you are right.
On the other hand, some of the people who play this game are frusterated with being 'assigned' this profession and they use the forum as a way to reach out to other people in the same situation while we look for information to help us on our path. Should they (we) be doing that? No. Would it be nice if the people who actually live here understand our situation? Yeah, and for the most part they are. Should these people feel required to be nice? No.
I guess I'm being swayed to your side of the argument that we (the holo-slaves) should read this forum for info. So, I'll change my main point to 'It would be nice 
if the true profession players understood the plight of the FSCS wannabe'. How's that sound?
Anastonia wrote:
DocSavag,
You are 100% correct.
In fact, Iwas originally tempted to make the typical '@#&! Holocron Told Me To Master Merchant' post when I first got it. But then I heard that ghostly voice... 'Luke... Use the FAQ, Luke.' Next thing you know, I've found all the information that I needed to master the profession without bothering another person with posting information that is already here.
So yes, you are right.
On the other hand, some of the people who play this game are frusterated with being 'assigned' this profession and they use the forum as a way to reach out to other people in the same situation while we look for information to help us on our path. Should they (we) be doing that? No. Would it be nice if the people who actually live here understand our situation? Yeah, and for the most part they are. Should these people feel required to be nice? No.
I guess I'm being swayed to your side of the argument that we (the holo-slaves) should read this forum for info. So, I'll change my main point to 'It would be nice
I can agree with that. I personally think we should be polite but firm in our response that if you want to get informationa bout how to grind the profession you should look at the information already available.
Flames aren't necessary. But they will happen if the attitude of the person asking for the information is insulting or seems to denegrate our profession.
Pepole who are on the jedi quest have my sympathy. It is a bad system and it is hurting the game.
Does anyone xp merchant for fun? I cant see why. This is the most disturbing profession that I have been faced with yet. I just know some dev. is sitting at home and laughing it up. We all know that the xploit for master merchant in one night is gone. But even though I am against xploits.. i probably would have used this one, now that I know what I am in for. Luckily I have a very good weaponsmith friend who made me an admin to his casa and let me put up a vendor to replace his. Even with thatI have not yet made novice merchant..Im like 1500 of 5000 for novice, (has only been one night). I hear that solo you can spend 21 days on this. Does anyone have some words of wisdom for someone who doesnt care about this profession and would rather be killing/grinding forthe xp instead of osmosis? SWG has had many problems to date..but none that i havent been able to overcome, or deal with. Should this be the one to finally make me quit? or is there another way? Serious answers appreciated! 
i come here now... as i sit at work, contemplating my future. all i ever wanted, was to be was a master rifleman and ranger, and to have a jedi (the perma death, and now player bounties facinate me)
second holo is merchant... ok, i can deal with it, but i look at the first 20 posts on the board, and realize that this is Not the profession for me... i do not want or need any more money than i spend on guns, and a few bits of metal for making camps. what i want is to rome the back woods of distant planets, either as a master hunter, or a jedi hermit.
and i do know how you feel, alot of you probably love your "useless" profession as much as i love my "useless" ranger skills. i am as sick as you are, of the people coming to our rifle, and ranger forums, and trying to grind out the profession as fast as they can.
the thing is, they are not truly merchants, rangers, whatever. not like those loyal to the profession, i have met riflemen nearly masters who didnt know what a spray stick, or Jawa ion rifle was... so, all i do is attempt to help them as best i can along there chosen (or forced as it were) path.