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Thread: Merchants, Player Cities & Tatooine...

GonkMaster
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:19 pm
#1

I'm a Master Merchant and I've hooked up with a dedicated crafter. Together we're planning to open a big store.


Arethere any advantages to openinga store in a player city as opposed to a location in the wilds near a non-player city?


The store will be on Tatooine. Does anyone have any advice for a location?


Thanks,


Chroso





GonkMaster
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:26 pm
#2

Heh. Never mind the Tatooine location question. Somehow in my mind I thought this was a Corbantis Merchant Forum.


First question still applicable!

Neologist
Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:24 pm
#3

5 of my vendors are in a player city, 1 near anchorhead. Each location has it's advantages, but nothing beats the convenience of living and working in the same town. Not to mention the fact that the wide variety of other merchants in the player city, in an organized and structured layout, make a great shopping experience, and therefore increases my sales.


Since moving the bulk of my business to Utopia on Lok (Eclipse) my sales have practically tripled.


Just my observations.

Faellyn
Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:57 pm
#4

In a player city, your vendor can be within a few meters of the shuttle. You'll always be at least 800 meters away from thenon-player city.









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DocSavag
Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:39 am
#5






Faellyn wrote:

In a player city, your vendor can be within a few meters of the shuttle. You'll always be at least 800 meters away from thenon-player city.







The thing to consider is the amount of traffice at each location. If the player city has a large base of residents and has a good amount of traffic (its on the way to something cool maybe) then that is your best bet. People will wander in and out of player cities for various reasons and most people will eventually stop and check out the local vendors (its hard to resist).


On the other hand if it is a small city (outpost or village) and not really getting a lot of people passing through you might be better off near the static city.


You could be the reason a small city becomes a larger one though. If you are attracting people to the city with your vendor it could start slow and get bigger.





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SueDenim
Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:16 am
#6

Though another consideration is that vehicles make the "unincorporated" areas near big cities more accessible. I'm in a little "unincorporated village" south of Kor Vella (which also includes a great Armorsmith's shop, a weaponsmith, and a resource seller), and I (somewhat to my surprise) have noticed no dropoffs in sales after player cities - if anything, an increase. And what seems to be a significant increase in walk-in (or "ride-in") traffic since vehicles appeared.

I think the upshot is that people will go to the best shops, wherever they might be. A well-stocked shop with quality goods will attract customers, even if they might have to go slightly out of their way to get there.



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GonkMaster
Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:58 am
#7

Thanks everyone!
Thorizan
Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:00 pm
#8

Having Planetary Advertising is crucial. Being able to open up the overhead after landing in a city and seeing your vendor a few yards off really helps sales. I own a shop on Dantooine, 40m outside the Imperial Outpost. I placed it there before they made the boundary 500m out instead. I have always had a steady stream of customers. I suggest planting ina Player City at Tier 4, with a Shuttleport, and place the vendor as close to the shuttle as possible. Then they will see your vendor when they hit the overhead to check out the city.



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Paweh
Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:06 pm
#9

There is a downside to having a vendor in a player city: Player Cities may have a sales tax set. Check your local City Hall to see what rate it's set at (if you're lucky, it's set to 0%).

Side Note: The tax rate also affects Offers to Vendors, so if people are selling things to you (i.e. you have a supplier), you may want to avoid cities with sales tax.



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Polenth
Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:02 pm
#10

One thing to ponder with player cities... if they have a halfway decent city plan (and you want a city that's planned... random cities don't make good places to find shops), the really great vendor spots by the shuttleports will have gone by the time the shuttle is in. The early residents will live round it already. Sometimes taking a risk, and moving in before they get to that stage, can be worth it.


Even without shuttleports though, I sell more in a shuttle-less player city than I did by a major NPC city. It's a case of choose your city wisely.




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donnah42
Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:02 pm
#11

I sell more in our player city, because a lot of the residents enjoy buying local. We don't have a shuttleport yet, but we do host events, and that helps folks find my shop.


I also get a lot of business from the next town over, since they don't have a tailor shop yet, but still want to stay in the area to buy.




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DocSavag
Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:13 am
#12






Polenth wrote:

One thing to ponder with player cities... if they have a halfway decent city plan (and you want a city that's planned... random cities don't make good places to find shops), the really great vendor spots by the shuttleports will have gone by the time the shuttle is in. The early residents will live round it already. Sometimes taking a risk, and moving in before they get to that stage, can be worth it.


Even without shuttleports though, I sell more in a shuttle-less player city than I did by a major NPC city. It's a case of choose your city wisely.







One of the challenges to Virtual Mayors (and real mayors for that matter) is moving people and things around to make your city better. When the shuttle port goes in any good mayor will buy up the houses right around it to make room for a merchant area or for a nice square where you can find trainers etc.. things are possible even after the city is built.





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Polenth
Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:33 pm
#13






DocSavag wrote:


One of the challenges to Virtual Mayors (and real mayors for that matter) is moving people and things around to make your city better. When the shuttle port goes in any good mayor will buy up the houses right around it to make room for a merchant area or for a nice square where you can find trainers etc.. things are possible even after the city is built.




You're assuming the mayor didn't plan their city very far ahead, and will be forced to move people to make a good merchant area, place civic buildings, etc. This isn't needed. There's enough room in each radius of a city to put people where they can stay, if you plan ahead and make a map. This is more popular with residents, as they don't have to keep moving. The 'cram people in and move them later' approach is arguably nota sign of a good mayor/city council.


If the city has a planning map, it's wise to study it carefully... if it looks like it won't even need major changes, then you have the choice of move in early for a prime spot, or move in late for whatever is left. It shouldn't be assumed that no city plans that far ahead. Some certainly do.




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Fernvale Tailor Shop
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