Merchant Archive
Thread: Why i dont like this Update
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Radone
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:18 am
#1
Hoi,
there are a few reasons why i definitly DONT like this update:
First:
when i want to check the resources that are offered to my vendors or check whats for sale the name and amount is not there anymore.
Before there stood for example
Egg (Obot) 421
Egg (Seapo) 39
Egg (Iliod) 1289
and now its
Egg
Egg
Egg
Very funny.
ever tryed to find a particular stack if you have at the first page already a dozen time "Isekt meat" ? Without name and amount ??
And when i want to check if my suppliers calculate the correct price i have to open the offer also. No name of the resource and no amount there also.
That HORRIBLE
Second: before i had to click 3 times to accept a bit:
Mark it
click buy
click yes
Now its great:
I have to mark it.
Click buy
ckick yes
then SWG tells me that i purchased the item and that it will go into my inventory or that i have to travel to the vendor to retrieve it.
And then its not done - no: when the vendor is out of range (and i often buy stuff from my vendor on Dant when i am on Tat) it also tells me AFTER the window with the "in order to retrieve the item you have to travel there" that icant retrieved it because the vendor is not here. Of course i have to accept that window also. it dont close by itself...
Great. Now it took LONGER then before to accept an offer. I have to open it to check the price (that means more clicking) and then more clicks till i finaly have the stuff...
I thought updates are for making things better then worser .. ?
Belisama
there are a few reasons why i definitly DONT like this update:
First:
when i want to check the resources that are offered to my vendors or check whats for sale the name and amount is not there anymore.
Before there stood for example
Egg (Obot) 421
Egg (Seapo) 39
Egg (Iliod) 1289
and now its
Egg
Egg
Egg
Very funny.
ever tryed to find a particular stack if you have at the first page already a dozen time "Isekt meat" ? Without name and amount ??
And when i want to check if my suppliers calculate the correct price i have to open the offer also. No name of the resource and no amount there also.
That HORRIBLE
Second: before i had to click 3 times to accept a bit:
Mark it
click buy
click yes
Now its great:
I have to mark it.
Click buy
ckick yes
then SWG tells me that i purchased the item and that it will go into my inventory or that i have to travel to the vendor to retrieve it.
And then its not done - no: when the vendor is out of range (and i often buy stuff from my vendor on Dant when i am on Tat) it also tells me AFTER the window with the "in order to retrieve the item you have to travel there" that icant retrieved it because the vendor is not here. Of course i have to accept that window also. it dont close by itself...
Great. Now it took LONGER then before to accept an offer. I have to open it to check the price (that means more clicking) and then more clicks till i finaly have the stuff...
I thought updates are for making things better then worser .. ?
Belisama
Groid
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:38 am
#2
Agree, this is the worst thing they could have done to merchants.
If you were in the resource selling business, or in the selling business, good luck.
If you used to love to shop, you wont anymore.
bad bad patch..
Mokianna
Arratarr
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:42 am
#3
Obviously this is one of those "issues" that escaped their notice because everyone was too busy playing with Jedi. 
Its the same way in the bazaar as for vendors, Just type of resource, no name, no AMMOUNT. I thought this was just a fluke because At times I've gotten messages that "Iron" has fallen off the vendor from not being purchased, but no, after removing it, and putting it back up for sale, Its still stupid old "iron".
I daresay I hope I don't have to start putting resources in bags so I can at least have what they are visible.
Its the same way in the bazaar as for vendors, Just type of resource, no name, no AMMOUNT. I thought this was just a fluke because At times I've gotten messages that "Iron" has fallen off the vendor from not being purchased, but no, after removing it, and putting it back up for sale, Its still stupid old "iron".
I daresay I hope I don't have to start putting resources in bags so I can at least have what they are visible.
PoilDeCarotte
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:07 am
#4
Radone, you can be sure this is not as designed.
This is an issue for sure and the devs will look into it.
This has nothing to do with the Publish 9, I mean it's a mistake, we were never told that the resource name and amount would not be indicated anymore.
Quite sure this will be fixed in the next days with maintenance.
edit: never ever expect any publish/patch to come out bug free... this does not exist 
Message Edited by PoilDeCarotte on 06-29-2004 05:09 PM
Mkappus
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:19 am
#5
How do you know it isn't by design. The stated change is:
How do you make something faster? You decrease the amount of data it stores and returns. I hope and pray it is a mistake and they fix it soon. But, it is possible that some guy was told to make the bazaar system faster, and the only way he could do it was to drop the detail.
DocSavag
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:45 am
#6
I'll ask about the name thing. At first glance that appears to be a bug with the changes they made to the description code. I don't think it was intentional.
starcraftWS
Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:07 am
#7
Greeeeeeeeat. 
Let's just hope that this is a bug that will be fixed in tomorrow's hotfix. Any takers?
*crickets*
Style_Guru
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:44 am
#9
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This is so stupid that it have to be an error.
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Let's hope so. I'm not holding my breath -- I too think this is the "response time" improvement -- it improves response times by making sure *nobody* shops for resources at the bazaar or at vendors. The spaceport-spamming resource salesmen will be happy though. Feh. :/
This is so stupid that it have to be an error.
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Let's hope so. I'm not holding my breath -- I too think this is the "response time" improvement -- it improves response times by making sure *nobody* shops for resources at the bazaar or at vendors. The spaceport-spamming resource salesmen will be happy though. Feh. :/
Leafthemedic
Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:18 am
#10
Arratarr, this was NOT an issue that escaped our notice on test center. The day publish 9 hit test the vendors would display the first 104 items in a random manner of everything on all planets, "next page" did not work at all as well. Up until 2 days ago on test center you could not even read the description of items you clicked on in addition to the current bug of not seeing the name. The devs have done alot with the backend of the vendor/bazzar database to pave the way for future enhancements, it is unfortunate that this one last bug remains.
G'na
Master Artisan/Master Merchant/Master Droid Engineer on tc1
Metropolis of Skystone/Tatooine
shadowdefender
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:37 pm
#11
I am a bit concerned that it is a performance fix - ie if they are loading less info it loads faster. However I would rather not have description on and have name - type and amount versus the other way around. Also concerned about timeframe to get it fixed. One of my characters Master Tailor and the necklace bug has never been touched.
Radone
Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:54 pm
#12
Hoi PoilDeCarotte,
I hope the problem with the name / amount is a bug.
But i am not sure the second point i mentioned is called a bug by SOE also... But it nearly doubles the time i need to buy the offers at my vendors (if i dont price check)...
So half of the publish will maybe stay after they fix the first (hopefully) bug.
Best
Beli
I hope the problem with the name / amount is a bug.
But i am not sure the second point i mentioned is called a bug by SOE also... But it nearly doubles the time i need to buy the offers at my vendors (if i dont price check)...
So half of the publish will maybe stay after they fix the first (hopefully) bug.
Best
Beli
Lari-KoTari
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:23 pm
#13
Great..I thought it was just me........lets keep up bumping this thread to the top...maybe the devs will see...but it is notJEDI related so they probably do not care.
Or maybe you have to be force senstive to read the names now on the vender using crafting bonuses......I sense the name of the material is..............Make sure you need a skill point just to shop now.......wait until you need to be force senstive to call out your bike......
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