Merchant Archive
Thread: Item Limit (150)on vinders?
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MadDoc76
Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:46 am
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Currently, there is no limit to how many items can be placed on a vendor. This causes technical issues, encourages monopolies and actually hurts sales in many instances because most players don't "drill down" through all of the vendor pages to find items. We want to solve the technical issues, discourage monopolies and make vendors easier to use. An item limit is going to be placed on vendors and that limit is intended to be placed on 150.
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I just saw this.,,.,.,.,
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I really don't like the way this is going.,. I hope the rest of my bothers & sisters here will speak out aganst this 150 cap. this should be on the top of the " DO NOT DO LIST"
Just my thoughts
(I really don't like the way this is going.,. I hope the rest of my bothers & sisters here will speak out aganst this 150 cap. this should be on the top of the " DO NOT DO LIST"
Just my thoughts
PS..,And the NERFs just keep coming!!!!!!!!!!
DocSavag
Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:48 am
#2
We are currently waiting the next proposal to be released. They are most likely going to scale the vendor item limits to the merchant skills. But expect to have a cap and expect it to be far less than you want it to be even at the top.
MadDoc76
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:10 am
#3
We are currently waiting the next proposal to be released. They are most likely going to scale the vendor item limits to the merchant skills. But expect to have a cap and expect it to be far less than you want it to be even at the top.
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Well I hope it's in the range of 500 to 1000 per vinder I would have to drop some of my stuff from them.,. but I have (2) accounts now just for Vinders & Slots.,. I don't have "as they say a "Monopolie", I just have alot of stuff for sell.,,. and I'm RESTOCKING every day.,. Hell I would have to get tons of Factorys just to hold my back-up stuff that I have waiting to sell in this case.,,. I know there needs to be some kind of "cap" but 150.,,.,. Baaaaaa!!!! Please don't let this happen.,,.
DocSavag
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:22 am
#4
If you get tons of factories ..and that starts to be a problem you will end up only getting factories nerfed as well. There is nothing any of us can do to stop vendor limits. I don't believe they will be as high as 1000 frankly. I think you are going to have to learn to do more with less space because that is the way the devs are leaning.
MadDoc76
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:31 am
#5
If you get tons of factories ..and that starts to be a problem you will end up only getting factories nerfed as well. There is nothing any of us can do to stop vendor limits. I don't believe they will be as high as 1000 frankly. I think you are going to have to learn to do more with less space because that is the way the devs are leaning.
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Do more with Less Space.,.,??? No.,., I'll take my money to another Game.,., I'm Sick of all the Nerfs.,,. From day one.,Everything from the CH to the jedi.,,. I'v had a good time messing with my Merchant.,And Another thing.,,. Who are you to tell me how to play.,,. Why are you trolling my post.,,.Are you a DEV? or a CSR.,,.? I said from 500 to 1000 cap.,., that's my thoughts.,, you don't have to come here and Flame my post.,.if you want to do that go over to the Jedi post-board.,.
DocSavag
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:36 am
#6
MadDoc76 wrote:
If you get tons of factories ..and that starts to be a problem you will end up only getting factories nerfed as well. There is nothing any of us can do to stop vendor limits. I don't believe they will be as high as 1000 frankly. I think you are going to have to learn to do more with less space because that is the way the devs are leaning.
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Do more with Less Space.,.,??? No.,., I'll take my money to another Game.,., I'm Sick of all the Nerfs.,,. From day one.,Everything from the CH to the jedi.,,. I'v had a good time messing with my Merchant.,And Another thing.,,. Who are you to tell me how to play.,,. Why are you trolling my post.,,.Are you a DEV? or a CSR.,,.? I said from 500 to 1000 cap.,., that's my thoughts.,, you don't have to come here and Flame my post.,.if you want to do that go over to the Jedi post-board.,.
"I don't Believe.."
"I thnk..."
Those are my opinions about how things will be. Nothing in my post was a flame or a troll. As to you leaving the game, well of course anyone of us is free to do that at any time.
MadDoc76
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:43 am
#7
So your Opinion is: for me and every Merchant, to "Do More With Less Space" is this right? Who gave you this power to tell us what to do and how to do it? Please tell us.,,
MadDoc76
Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:52 am
#8
I know your the "Merchant Correspondent" But I have a right to vint here on my Opions.,And I think from what I saw on the Development Boards that alot of other Merc's fill the same.,150 is way to low.,,. from 500 to 1000 (Not 1000 up to I said) would be alot better off to begain with.,I'm sorry I mouthed off on you.,, but this just Makes me Mad.,., that every time I turn around something is getting nerffed.,and yes.,, just like many and most of my guild (I said GUILD) it will get so bad that yes I'll go to anther game., I know my 7 accounts don't many crap to you or SONY.,., but I just can't take much more of this.,,.
MadDoc76
Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:15 am
#9
From another post:
Lastly, a quick reason why you will NEVER see vendors getting randomly shut down by the Devs...
1 Vendor = 1 Small House (150 Items) of Items
6 -2 Vendors = 4 Small Houses of Items
4 Small Houses of LOST items due to lack of storage = Too many angry people for them to implement this.
I think you underestimate how serious the development team is about limiting the vendor storage issue. I think they will limit both the number of items and the number of vendors in the galaxy. People will be angry. Some will leave the game. Others will stay in th game and do other things. Some will continue on and learn how to do business under the new rules. Others will join the profession and having never seen the "Before" will not really understand what the big deal is. I never argued for a limit to the number of items on vendors. I did infact argue against that. But it is going to happen in one form or the other.
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I don't know this guy/gal that you were talking to, But if I get on one day and find that 1000's of things have gone "POOF" from my vinders yes I will be mad.,,.And yes I will raise IMMORTAL HELL about it!! LoL so will 99% of ever server. I hope you guys know this. But another thing., you know the Lets say "Tailer" has over 200 Schematics for clothing., and like 8 diffrent collors for each, and Don't forget the BIO's., Oh and don't forget the Wookie stuff.,just that and you get 1000's of Items that need to be on the vinders.,Oh and if that "tailer" wants to sell something other than Clothing along with what he or she already has.,,. Tough Luck for him or her right? Well with the 150 cap hell they will not even get started LoL.,,. yes this is going down hill.,., and it will be one of the Biggest Issoues in the coming days for this Class.,,.And yes.,,. we will have to resolve to having TONS of Factorys to hold stuff waiting to be put on the now Gimped vinders.,You are our Correspondent .,., and "ALL" the Merc's look to you as our Voice to the Dev team..,.,That's all i have to say.,,.hope you have a nice day.,
Bachreus
Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:39 am
#10
I wish they would go the opposite way and say there had to be a minimum number of items on your vendor to keep it.
Xieflow
Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:16 pm
#11
such an absurdly low item limit on vendors is BS.
As a weaponsmith + master merchant, I won't be terribly effected myself, however I *do* go to other peoples vendors for tailor clothing, armorsmith armor, architect furniture.
What does this cap mean?
Tailors and architects (and their customers) are getting told by the devs "F YOU". Architects will probably not stock furniture anymore, and tailors will probably stop running vendors altogether.
If the devs are going to do an item limit, make it depend on your other skills, and your merchant skills. IE: A player with just business 3 and nothing else in artisan could only have 100 items on the one vendor (scaled up to 1000 per vendor at Master Merchant). A player with Master Weaponsmith would get a 1.25 modifier, a Master Tailor would get a 2.0 modified, an architect will get a 1.5 modifier, etc.
All I see happening with vendor limits is *more* empty vendors, and *very* limited availability of anything.
As a weaponsmith + master merchant, I won't be terribly effected myself, however I *do* go to other peoples vendors for tailor clothing, armorsmith armor, architect furniture.
What does this cap mean?
Tailors and architects (and their customers) are getting told by the devs "F YOU". Architects will probably not stock furniture anymore, and tailors will probably stop running vendors altogether.
If the devs are going to do an item limit, make it depend on your other skills, and your merchant skills. IE: A player with just business 3 and nothing else in artisan could only have 100 items on the one vendor (scaled up to 1000 per vendor at Master Merchant). A player with Master Weaponsmith would get a 1.25 modifier, a Master Tailor would get a 2.0 modified, an architect will get a 1.5 modifier, etc.
All I see happening with vendor limits is *more* empty vendors, and *very* limited availability of anything.
SueDenim
Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:26 pm
#12
Doc,
I notice on the Release 7 Test Center notes, there's no apparent mention of vendor limits. Do you know if this means we're getting a reprieve from the death sentence until Release 8?
I notice on the Release 7 Test Center notes, there's no apparent mention of vendor limits. Do you know if this means we're getting a reprieve from the death sentence until Release 8?
DocSavag
Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:32 pm
#13
MadDoc76 wrote:
So your Opinion is: for me and every Merchant, to "Do More With Less Space" is this right? Who gave you this power to tell us what to do and how to do it? Please tell us.,,
If you have less space then you will have to learn to cope with it..yes. That is my opinion. I am not making a judgement about the justice of you having less space. I am stating that it is a fact that the devs have told us there will be vendor item limits. If you choose not to play the game because of it ok, but if you choose to play you will have to cope with the new rules which will be less vendor space to deal with.
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