Merchant Archive
Thread: Who's more pissed: Business 3 or Master Merchant?
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Tragot
Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:41 pm
#1
Random thought, but of 90% of the posts I've seen in objection to the vendor changes. Only a small minority are even Master Merchant, and the majority of the people voicing complaints had Master Merchant at one point in time, but have since dropped to Business 3. The problem is, that Merchant has been broken, and you CAN surrender every merchant skill with NO penalty. You keep all your vendors.
Now the people that will be forced back down to ONE vendor cry foul. And yes, I am 110% for the vendor changes, though I agree that the item cap needs adjusted.
I guess we won't be able to have our cake and eat it too anymore.
Ciao,
VarnaxDespin
Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:45 pm
#2
Well I am niether, I have had master merchant 2 times in past, and have no issue picking it up again. I currently operate with merchant managment 4 so as to have all the vendors. I have no current need or use for the other skills, but advertising 3 is nice when placing a new vendor.
BTW....I am very upset at the changes.
jefdenbeffer
Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:40 pm
#3
I am 0044 merchant again.
I was 4004 merchant for a while for the planetarty listing but went back to 0044 to avoid the risk of my terminal vendors disappearing.
The fact that people who have 6 vendors and now totally gave up on the merchant and even business line, while still maintaining 6 vendors, needs to be fixed no doubt about it.
This alone will already clear A LOT of database problems vendors are supposed to be giving now.
Message Edited by jefdenbeffer on 08-11-2004 12:41 AM
Dimear
Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:20 pm
#4
I'm master merchant and have been for months. This change sucks for everyone. Were we merchants really so uber-powerful that we needed a nerf? Were there really too many of us? Not enough people getting their money by grinding Janta missions instead of adding to the player economy?
I'm not even a crafter, but I have about 2000 items for sale on my 4 vendors. At one point, I was moving 500+ items per day. So with the new system, I'd need at least 5 other master merchants helping me sell my goods (lightsaber resources), spread across 30 vendors. And I'm a fairly low volume merchant. A high volume crafter will need 10-20 full time master merchants selling his wares. This assumes they don't have anything of their own to sell, or anyone else to work for. Instead of 1 crafter tending his merchant, you'll have 17 people, tending 100 merchants to do the same thing. Instead of walking into a room and buying from the vendor, you'll walk into a room and buy from the 100 vendors selling 1 person's product. Good luck finding the right one that has the item you're looking for. Oops - someone visited that vendor a few hours ago and now it's empty.
And each of these 17 merchants will need to go personally visit the crafter a few times per day to go pick up the goods to sell (up to 50 pieces at a time!) since the crafter can't just put stuff on a vendor any more. I can't wait to have to log on at 2 am to go visit the crafter I would represent (once I find the 5 other master merchants who are available full time to represent me). And re-stocking my vendor 6 times per day - woohoo! Can't wait.
I don't understand why they're hitting us master merchants so hard. I can understand taking vendors away from people who don't deserve them (non-merchants using the exploit), and I support nerfs (even unpopular ones) that make the game more balanced and fun. But nerfing merchant? Seriously? This isn't just kicking us while we're down. This is ripping off our **edit: male genitalia** and using it to **edit: forced copulation** our sisters. But hey - at least we have spam droids now - that makes up for it...
I'm not even a crafter, but I have about 2000 items for sale on my 4 vendors. At one point, I was moving 500+ items per day. So with the new system, I'd need at least 5 other master merchants helping me sell my goods (lightsaber resources), spread across 30 vendors. And I'm a fairly low volume merchant. A high volume crafter will need 10-20 full time master merchants selling his wares. This assumes they don't have anything of their own to sell, or anyone else to work for. Instead of 1 crafter tending his merchant, you'll have 17 people, tending 100 merchants to do the same thing. Instead of walking into a room and buying from the vendor, you'll walk into a room and buy from the 100 vendors selling 1 person's product. Good luck finding the right one that has the item you're looking for. Oops - someone visited that vendor a few hours ago and now it's empty.
And each of these 17 merchants will need to go personally visit the crafter a few times per day to go pick up the goods to sell (up to 50 pieces at a time!) since the crafter can't just put stuff on a vendor any more. I can't wait to have to log on at 2 am to go visit the crafter I would represent (once I find the 5 other master merchants who are available full time to represent me). And re-stocking my vendor 6 times per day - woohoo! Can't wait.
I don't understand why they're hitting us master merchants so hard. I can understand taking vendors away from people who don't deserve them (non-merchants using the exploit), and I support nerfs (even unpopular ones) that make the game more balanced and fun. But nerfing merchant? Seriously? This isn't just kicking us while we're down. This is ripping off our **edit: male genitalia** and using it to **edit: forced copulation** our sisters. But hey - at least we have spam droids now - that makes up for it...
JZeus-Sarono
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:17 pm
#5
I'm 3/0/4/4 merchant.
I think everyone pissed at this nerf is everyone that sells enything on a vendor LOL
I could see a small restriction, but this is sad.
500-1k per vendor would be ok, that would force you to have more merchant, not 60 per vendor at management 4, and only 10 more per vendor for master, that still makes master useless 
Takkes
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:51 pm
#6
I'm Master Merchant and pissed b/c this nerf is messing with my shop and business.
Seems all I do in my posts is complain.
I guess you'll see a different side of me when the devs stop screwing me over.
Seems all I do in my posts is complain.
I guess you'll see a different side of me when the devs stop screwing me over.
vabli
Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:04 pm
#7
im master merchant and all for the changes except the item cap. i have about 3000 items of looted weapon conponents/crafted weapon conponents/stacks of resources/crafted weapons. willl somebody please tell me where im gonna store all this? 
vabli
Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:13 pm
#8
o and btw, they should remove the 30 day time casp too. im sick todeath or reloading my vendors
ockeew
Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:20 pm
#9
i have too many things stocked to count... not to mention the 200-500 things/daily that end cause fo the 30day rotation... i have 3 master merchant toons, soon to be 4. am I upset with the change, no except fro the limit. will it affect my business... yes i won't be able to keep a fraction of what i keep in stock now...
Tirgwystraff
Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:23 pm
#10
vabli wrote:
o and btw, they should remove the 30 day time casp too. im sick todeath or reloading my vendors
Do you remember when it was only 7 days? The screaming from tailors was rather loud...... ( I certainly screamed as an armorsmith, but not nearly as loudly as they did!)
Takkes
Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:52 pm
#11
vabli wrote:o and btw, they should remove the 30 day time casp too. im sick todeath or reloading my vendors
I recently moved shop locations and, hence, vendors. So I ended up restocking thousands of items of four vendors in one day. Then they all timed out in one day. Kinda snuck up on me. I was on the verge of pulling me hair out
AshleyHumes
Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:10 pm
#12
I don't mind if they keep the 30 day limit, that does not bother me.
One of the functions I like is the ability to select and retrieve multiple items from the stockroom at one time. If they took that and did the following:
Make a 'Resell Item' button which would resell the item with theoriginal description and price with one keyclick. Allow you to select multiple items and resell them ALL with one keyclick. Even better, a button next to it that said 'Resell ALL'.
Kurtzgirl
Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:19 pm
#13
I am neither Master Merchant nor Business 3. I have 0-0-1-0 Merchant. Why? I only need 2 vendors to run my tailor shop. How? Because I can stock unlimited items. One vendor for Clothing. Another vendor for components and loot.
I'm working ontailoring and pistoleer. I'm not even a Master Tailor yet and when I do become MT, that skill box opens up a whole new world of colors I can make clothing to stock on my vendors. 240 schematics x many coloration schemes = heck of a lot of clothing.
Tell me how am I supposed to be a MTailor and MPistoleer and MMerchant to be able to stock at least 2 of everything I can make in a least 2 colors (completely negating the other color combonations)?? I'd love to know if any of you have the answer because I don't seem to have enough skill points to do that. Dropping my combat skills or getting a second account is NOT an option.
So its not just the extremes of the scale that are mad about this change. What about all of us in the middle? I just opened a shop three and one half weeks ago (been playing SWG over a year now). Between last night and today I sold OVER 100 items at my normal prices. Not blowout, firesale, the vendor nerf is coming prices; regular pricing!! People complain about empty vendors now, I just rue the day I get sold out just as quick and have an empty vendor staring a customer in the face.
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