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Thread: SOE's Response to the Mass Merchant Bannings on every server

WhydoIstillplaythisgame
Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:12 am
#1



Well after kicking and screaming (not literally but close) I demanded to speak to someone in charge at SOE and was able to talk to the Lead CSR. He and I discussed the mass bannings of poeple all over SWG and he gave me their reason for what is occuring. He said pretty much what we already knew but expanded a little more. People are being banned on all servers for the people who made duped credits buying our items. He assured me that they are working on it 24/7 and that GM's will be responding to emails as soon as they can. He said that they are doing everything they can to ensure that none of the duped credits get into the economy. I asked him why they haven't said anything yet, he said he wasn't sure why the devs had not said anything yet, but that he assured me they were working on getting things straight.


It's not much more than we already knew but at least they aren't going to perma ban the merchants. I think we all knew that if they did that the chaos that would ensue. Anyway, after 20 minutes of waiting and demanding, I got as much out of them as I could. Hopefully we get our accounts reactivated soon.




Drterror
Nemesis Syndicate

Status: Banned
SOE's Reason: None
SeaRaptor
Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:25 am
#2






WhydoIstillplaythisgame wrote:



Iasked him why they haven't said anything yet, he said he wasn't sure why the devs had not said anything yet...





I'll posit a guess as to this reason. It's because there are no lines of communication between the devs and the CSRs. If there were, I'd like to think we wouldn't have incompetent CSRs who confiscate legit items anddon't know how basic game systems work. Conversely, the devs might know just how poor, pathetic, and craptastic the "customer service" (and I use that term loosely) we typically receive is.


There are exceptions. I myself have had at least 1 good experience with a CSR. But that's about 4 less than I should have had.


Message Edited by SeaRaptor on 08-20-2004 01:26 PM



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Shindhi1
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:09 am
#3

well i'm closing down my venders until this blows over, dont' want to take the chance on getting banned <shrug>




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Sigrun
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:19 am
#4





Thunderheart wrote:


A new credit-dupe has surfaced. We are aware of the issue and have corrected it already. Unfortunately, an insane amount of "counterfeit" credits are circulating throughout the galaxies. We do have transaction logs and know exactly who did the duping and what they've done with the credits since


In an effort to prevent this from destroying all the galactic economies, we are in the process of suspending all accounts that now possess or have ever possessed counterfeited credits.


We realize this will mean that some players receive suspensions for doing nothing more than having a vendor or receiving a tip. We are committed to reviewing the transaction logs and using the information therein to restore access to innocent accounts within 48 hours.


We apologize for the inconvenience this will cause to the innocent players we have impacted. However, we feel this is necessary in order to avoid the greater negative impact that so many counterfeit credits will have on the game's economy.


Please note that in some cases, we will have to remove the counterfeit credits from innocent accounts without compensation; however, where we are able we will returns items that were paid for with counterfeit credtis as we remove the credits from the game.


Thank you.






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MainMor
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:29 am
#5

I am also shutting down all of mine.

And if I get banned... then I will not be back.

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WhydoIstillplaythisgame
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:29 pm
#6

WOW look at what the CSR's are doing to people!! LOL


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Intrepid&message.id=326456&page=1



Drterror
Nemesis Syndicate

Status: Banned
SOE's Reason: None
ChunTheUnavoidable
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:59 pm
#7

That's really bizarre.
Mykella
Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:01 pm
#8






SeaRaptor wrote:






WhydoIstillplaythisgame wrote:



Iasked him why they haven't said anything yet, he said he wasn't sure why the devs had not said anything yet...





I'll posit a guess as to this reason. It's because there are no lines of communication between the devs and the CSRs. If there were, I'd like to think we wouldn't have incompetent CSRs who confiscate legit items anddon't know how basic game systems work. Conversely, the devs might know just how poor, pathetic, and craptastic the "customer service" (and I use that term loosely) we typically receive is.


There are exceptions. I myself have had at least 1 good experience with a CSR. But that's about 4 less than I should have had.



Message Edited by SeaRaptor on 08-20-2004 01:26 PM




CSRs are in San Diego, California and the devs are in Austin, Texas so I'm sure you're right.


People who are banned, then unbanned because they were innocent should, at the very least, receive credit for the days they were unable to play. I bet they don't even get an apology however, other than the canned one in TH's post.


Number-1-Commando
Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:05 pm
#9






Mykella wrote:





SeaRaptor wrote:






WhydoIstillplaythisgame wrote:



Iasked him why they haven't said anything yet, he said he wasn't sure why the devs had not said anything yet...





I'll posit a guess as to this reason. It's because there are no lines of communication between the devs and the CSRs. If there were, I'd like to think we wouldn't have incompetent CSRs who confiscate legit items anddon't know how basic game systems work. Conversely, the devs might know just how poor, pathetic, and craptastic the "customer service" (and I use that term loosely) we typically receive is.


There are exceptions. I myself have had at least 1 good experience with a CSR. But that's about 4 less than I should have had.



Message Edited by SeaRaptor on 08-20-2004 01:26 PM




CSRs are in San Diego, California and the devs are in Austin, Texas so I'm sure you're right.


People who are banned, then unbanned because they were innocent should, at the very least, receive credit for the days they were unable to play. I bet they don't even get an apology however, other than the canned one in TH's post.






Actually the devs are in San Diego, CA, and Austin Texas. The CSRs..... Probably india





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Hero_DarkJedi
Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:42 pm
#10






Number-1-Commando wrote:





Mykella wrote:





SeaRaptor wrote:






WhydoIstillplaythisgame wrote:



Iasked him why they haven't said anything yet, he said he wasn't sure why the devs had not said anything yet...





I'll posit a guess as to this reason. It's because there are no lines of communication between the devs and the CSRs. If there were, I'd like to think we wouldn't have incompetent CSRs who confiscate legit items anddon't know how basic game systems work. Conversely, the devs might know just how poor, pathetic, and craptastic the "customer service" (and I use that term loosely) we typically receive is.


There are exceptions. I myself have had at least 1 good experience with a CSR. But that's about 4 less than I should have had.



Message Edited by SeaRaptor on 08-20-2004 01:26 PM




CSRs are in San Diego, California and the devs are in Austin, Texas so I'm sure you're right.


People who are banned, then unbanned because they were innocent should, at the very least, receive credit for the days they were unable to play. I bet they don't even get an apology however, other than the canned one in TH's post.






Actually the devs are in San Diego, CA, and Austin Texas. The CSRs..... Probably india







Nah ... CSR's and some (or all) of QA is in San Diego ... I meet some of them at ComicCon just a few weeks back.




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Dracass
Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:05 pm
#11






Hero_DarkJedi wrote:







Number-1-Commando wrote:


Actually the devs are in San Diego, CA, and Austin Texas. The CSRs..... Probably india





Nah ... CSR's and some (or all) of QA is in San Diego ... I meet some of them at ComicCon just a few weeks back.





Negative Hero_DarkJedi.


QA Staff and Customer Service Reps do exist in India.


Proof: Check the latest Job Postin' of the QA Manager fer Austin, Texas. And see if ye can find the post made by the Director of Customer Service back in March'04.





Sign off,
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Be0Wulfe
Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:45 pm
#12

Only other advice for you truly innocent I can give is to write and snail mail a letter to SOE & LucasArts.

Either way, don't hold your breath, but do be polite. Remember, the other schlep on the other side of the phone is just trying to do his job and put food on the table for he & his own.



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Anjelic-One-
Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:15 pm
#13

Well this is the true response I got after emailing them just like they told us



Hello,


We have recently been made aware of a bug which was used as a method to


duplicate credits in Star Wars Galaxies. We have since fixed this bug


and stopped its use. The exploitation of this bug resulted in the


creation of a large amount of credits which isdamaging to the game?s


internal economy. We have identified everyone that exploited this bug


and are in the process of terminating the accounts that were involved.


We are continuing to actively investigate this issue and may determine


at a later date that further terminations may be necessary.



If you are receiving this reply to your inquiry, your account has been


identified as one involved with exploiting this bug and your account(s)


have been terminated (or suspended pending termination). It is against


our Terms of Service (agreed to every time you enter the game) to


exploit bugs or other obvious system design flaws. Section 12 of the


rules of conduct located at the official Star Wars Galaxies website


states:



12. You will not exploit any bug in Star Wars Galaxies, and you will not


communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug either directly or


through public posting, to any other Sony Station member. You will


promptly report such bugs via the /bug command in-game or by emailing


[email protected]. Exploitable bugs include, but are not limited


to bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits in-game.




Any account that has been positively identified to have exploited this


bugor was used to move these duplicated credits around (and all related


accounts) will beterminated and will not be reactivated.



Thank you,



Sony Online Entertainment Management




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