Merchant Archive

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Gavvot wrote:
I can't point them.

They don't exist.

See, with the current armor market, if I need energy protection for PvE, I en dup with a 40% stun suit.

Do you think that's normal?

I don't need stun protection.
I just need energy.
And I don't need 85%-90% protection, I can deal with 70%.

But that's the only thing available, so everybody is running in compo.

And if I ask AS to do other type of armor here is the answer :
Sorry, but I only do high end armor because it's insane profit and they do sell well.

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This is what is called a free market system. You have found a nitch in the market not being filled. Go find/become an AS and fill that need. Or maybe the demand (need) is so low that no one is interested in filling it at any price. If so then you have to become AS to make your own personal set. It is not the fault of the supplier that he/she does not want to make the armor you want. For supply to be created a demand must exist. In SWG a much freer market than in RL there is *NOTHING* stopping you from going out and becomeing an AS to make your own armor.

-Indene-

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joined42904 wrote:

I'm totally with RandomStatic on this one.

I helped a poor master dancer on my server in a similar way. I let her sell a couple crates of repair tools on Bazaar on consignment. The cost of producing repair tools is fairly small. And the number of players that won't buy crates of them and put them away for when they are needed is rather large. So they sell well on bazaar for 6k each.

I make a huge profit off something that isn't hard to experiment and share it with a new player for 50% of the profit. Now the new player has a successful business of her own. And she can either keep selling my repair tools on bazaar or not. Totally her decision. Thing is...it's so easy to put them up and 3k each is such easy money for her. She'll probably continue doing it but it's ok with me if she doesn't want to. It's small change for me. But I'm not giving money away here...the other player is earning it while learning how to operate a business. And this part doesn't even require any merchant skills.

I totally agree with the folks who may not want to trust a merchant with no reputation with their entire inventory. Only folks in the same PA or who have long term relationships with a crafter deserve that kind of trust.

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Teach a man(woman) to fish, feed him for a lifetime. Well done Joined.

-Indene-

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Brilyn wrote:

< Selective reading and comprehension again I see. Must be chronic. >

Let's pull back here a second. All *you're* doing is being derisive and abusive.

You have made points. You have then contradicted your *own* points.

Case in point:

"You're getting caught up in semantics. You can call it a discount from your retail price or you cancall it a wholesale price orcall it Bob for that matter."

Then:

"It's not a discount. It's a wholesale price. It's not an incentive. It's a distribution agreement. "

You have also said:

"Whatever you want to callit doesn'talter the fact that you will need to broker a deal with a merchant for a set price andthemerchant will then resell it."

Which is contradicted by:

"And no one is forcing you to do a damn thing."

And you Also said:

"Explain to me where I said that you idiot. And I'm delusional? "

Just to answer this bit, you said it here, despite the fact that I had quoted this in my response to you:

"Whatever you want to callit doesn'talter the fact that you will need to broker a deal with a merchant for a set price andthemerchant will then resell it."

If you don't even know what *you* are saying, how the heck are the rest of us supposed to deal with you?

Perhaps if you formed some coherant arguements, I wouldn't have this difficutly comprehending you.

Now, as for "Delusional", both myself and Dictionary.com define Delusional as:

"A false belief or opinion"

The "Delusion" that you are under is clearly shown here (I've emboldened the specific text, just so we're all on the same page)::

"Whatever you want to callit doesn'talter the fact that you will need to broker a deal with a merchant for a set price andthemerchant will then resell it.OR, you can choose to spend the points to be a merchant yourself and sell directly to the customer."

The only place you even come *close* to conceding anything is:

< Now, I don't disagree that the limits have a seriously negative impact to the Merchant profession as a whole and I have protested that aspect as strongly as the next person. Doesn't change the fact though that crafters will now have to make a choice when it comes to selling their goods - which was the original concept from the beginning. >

Now, just to get *you* back on track, the main debate in this thread is:

A bunch of people believe that I, as a crafter (when selling in bulk to them) should discount my prices by up to 20%.

I believe this is nonsensical, and I'm trying to ascertain a *reason* for this belief.

I apologise if you took the Delusional comment as a flame. It *initially* wasn't aimed at you, but you continued to spout irrelevant nonsense, like:

"Fine. Then spend the points to get Bus. 3 or Merchant"

Which I have repeatedly said is insufficient for anyone who wishes to actually sell things.

Yes, yes, I know you have "protested the item limits" too. If so, why the hell are you suggesting it as a solution, when the item limits render this as non-viable?

And finally:

as for:

"I replied, you attacked, I retaliated - simple as that. That makes me a troll?"

No.

What makes you a Troll is:

"For the love of god you're thick. When reading my response, read it slowwww - maybe it will sink it.It seems your reading skills are very selective. Or maybe it's your comprehension skills."

"Do you even know what the word "delusional" means? Or this your new word for the day there sparky."

"Now read it again sparky - and read it slow. And look up the word delusional while you're at it."

"Selective reading and comprehension again I see. Must be chronic."

"Only in your small, warped little mind someone is forcing you to do anything."

"You're a fool. And an ignorant fool at that - the worst kind."

If you want to have a constructive discussion, I'm all for it.

You need to do a couple things first:

Lose the flames.

Lose the condescension.

Lose the attitude.

Read *your* posts before declaring you didn't state something.

Attain some level of consistency and coherency.

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I don't suffer fools in real life. Now what makes you think I have any interest having a pointless debate with one on the Internet. Everything you claim I'm doing is actually a mirror of yourself and the fact that you don't see that is both amusing and sad.

LOL, and he called me delusional.

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Brilyn wrote:

Now, see, that's the problem right there.

I have Novice Merchant. I have 2 vendors. I sell things via my vendors.


If Novice Merchant can only stock 60 items per vendor, that makes Novice Merchant complety useless. It means that I *don't* have the option of "selling my own production".

And I use the Bazaar quite heavily, mainly for 2-handed Curved Swords (seems to be a forgotton weapon on Starsider, though I sell about 5-10 a day via the bazaar).

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So that is you problem, you wand all the perks for a master merchant, but you do not wand to spend the skill points to do so. Well it is your choice to only have novice merchant. Of cause a novice merchant is not going to have a high a selling abilities as a master merchant, just as a novice TKA do not have as high a combat abilities as a Master TKA.

You have 3 choices.
1) Use the SP to become a full fletched merchant. And get the higher sale ability.
2) Make do with whatever limits Novice merchants get.
3) Find a way to work with other players to get around you characters limitations.
4) Stop selling to the public.

And in case you had not noticed yet... this whole topic is about how we as merchants can help facility the third option.

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For nothing? what kind of idiot is this Merchant we're discussing?

He buys the weapons at x, and sells at x+profit margin.

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How is a merchant supposes compete that way? As I said if you do not wand to sell bulk for re-sale then do not do so, its your choice. But that also mean you loose the right to complain about your limited stock.
You choose not to have master merchant and the ability to have a larger stock, you chose not to work with another player to overcome you limited stock, and you choose to still sell to the public. Now accept the consequences of your choices, an stop troling.