Merchant Archive

Thread: Vendor Items MUST be Removed and Relisted to View Detailed Information

Staveeno
Sun May 01, 2005 7:13 am
#40

so basically, merchant gets screwed in the CU also, Least everyone is getting screwed together. Is there one profession post-CU that actually came out better than pre-CU?




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Phonelesscord
Sun May 01, 2005 7:18 am
#41







Staveeno wrote:
so basically, merchant gets screwed in the CU also, Least everyone is getting screwed together. Is there one profession post-CU that actually came out better than pre-CU?










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Message Edited by Phonelesscord on 05-01-2005 07:18 AM



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Stownhart
Sun May 01, 2005 8:08 am
#42

I just had a chain of thought going...


1000's of vendor owners relist 1000's of items eachin a single day. 30 days from now there is an email for each of those items unsold going into the stockroom once again. Is it possible that at the beginning of June we may see some server problems due to so much data flying around the in game email system?


fickle2000
Sun May 01, 2005 9:41 am
#43

I have 6 vendors that have 3-4 full pages of Clothing for sale.. and now I am going to have to go to each of these and pull them totally off and into my invent.. then put them back up for sale.... wow.. what a nice day I will have standing in my shop cursing as I get 3259723975209357 emails telling me that the auction was unsucessful... wonderful.. so I will also have to get a splint for my "clicker" finger .. life is good! *growl*



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Indene
Sun May 01, 2005 10:43 am
#44


I for one will relist from stockroom to my INV and back on when the stuff falls into the stockroom.


Indene





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Pappi
Sun May 01, 2005 1:43 pm
#45



Ani_cul wrote:
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I'm not relisting my items until they fall out naturally, but I ain't whining about it either. all my items have the original item name in the description, and all clothing items include color in the name. my customers have actually been thanking me for it.

you might just want to reconsider your generalization




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Ani_cul
Sun May 01, 2005 2:00 pm
#46






Pappi wrote:





Ani_cul wrote:
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I'm not relisting my items until they fall out naturally, but I ain't whining about it either. all my items have the original item name in the description, and all clothing items include color in the name. my customers have actually been thanking me for it.

you might just want to reconsider your generalization




Not really Pappi and that is because Tailor are a 'special' breed when it comes to what we sell,
my generaliztion is for the community as a whole.
And do not forget you are one of the rare few who would label their colors,
I wont, but I do label any BE clothing, which I know others sometimes don't.


Crafters, Loot sellers, Resource folks all of them, there are people who want to go on and cannot without their help.


all in all the post was directed specifically to those who are 'waiting' on a hotfix.
because even though they say they have read and know what's going on, they insist that the DEVs will hotfix it in..
and if they dont in such and such time then they quit..in which case do it now



I guess I am just tired of keeping tongue in cheek against so many naysayers, downtrodden,I got screwed people
that I have become a tough for you leave the game type person towards them


there is zero reason when you are miserable to inflict it upon a commuity of people attemping to carry on.
zero reason to attack anyone who enjoys something you now find fault with
and honestly..I wish folks would stop blameing Cors, Mods, and Devs for when they do their jobs.


*sigh*







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Pappi
Sun May 01, 2005 2:11 pm
#47

I actually hold a similar view in that if your items were converted in the CU and you don't relist them, it's your fault if they don't sell. I went and pulled all my BE clothing out because of that, and even after putting them into my "model" vendor for 100k each and put up a sign that says "pre-CU items, buy at your own risk", people still buy them. go figure O.o if my items were stat-dependent, then you bet your booty I'll be relisting too

the only thing I didn't agree with was your generalization on all merchants that didn't relist their items. I know not everyone label their clothing, and that's their problem post-CU, but I think I've earned my right not to be included in that generalization, even when I am one of the "refuse to relist" folks




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Elyssa
Sun May 01, 2005 3:51 pm
#48

A Red Name post about the vendor item conversion:


Clicky!



The commodities system data is separate from the rest of the game data, and thestats foreach item aregenerated when the item is put up for sale. We were not able to update this information as we converted items. We decided that it was better to show no information rather than incorrect information, so we removed it all. It will get regenerated when new items are placed for sale.





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Handsnake
Sun May 01, 2005 11:56 pm
#49






Ani_cul wrote:


honestly..I wish folks would stop blameing Cors, Mods, and Devs for when they do their jobs.

*sigh*










Tell me when they actually start "doing their jobs" and I'll stop telling them that they're a bunch of incompetent dolts.

I've been in development, design, and quality assurance for a sector of the software business much more complex and with much more serious implications than games (governmental accounting) for 6 plus years and the level of outright incompetence these devs have shown is several orders of magnitude greater than I've ever seen.


They've not been "doing their jobs" unless their jobs are classfied as "completely screwing up". There is no excuse for such shoddy work and every single IT professional I know who plays this game has said the same thing - these guys are either utterly incompetent or their managers are doing way too much acid.




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GARonin
Mon May 02, 2005 12:28 am
#50

Spent all of yesterday aftenoon (6 hours) relisting/removing/restocking ~2,500 vendor items (mostly armor) 75-80 items/per inventory load ...two words: Mind Numbing ...


But it's done...all items converted and I move on to the next disaster


Peace,



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wyrwulf
Mon May 02, 2005 8:22 am
#51






Elyssa wrote:

A Red Name post about the vendor item conversion:
Clicky!

The commodities system data is separate from the rest of the game data, and thestats foreach item aregenerated when the item is put up for sale. We were not able to update this information as we converted items. We decided that it was better to show no information rather than incorrect information, so we removed it all. It will get regenerated when new items are placed for sale.







So explain this, they say that the The commodities system data is separate from the rest of the game data


But its in the game the bazzar and vendors are in the game, makes no sense.


Which leads to an earlier post, it was not that they cant, but choose not to fix the problem.



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spyvsspy0110
Mon May 02, 2005 10:05 am
#52

I, for one, will not be relisting my items until they fall off, if I even bother to relist at all. I am seriously considering leaving the game, but I've decided to take a month or so off until I can make up my mind for sure. I've been playing since Aug. 03 and I really hate to give up something I've put so much work into, but overall, this is not the same game I started playing. I love being a tailor. I love the reputation I've built for myself, and I honestly enjoy helping other people look good. I do list the colors in the name of my items and I even have a color chart on my wall, so if someone wants to purchase an item without being able to see it, and they trust me, then I will make some sales. If I lose customers because of this, I don't blame myself one bit. What makes me laugh is the fact that this was a Combat Upgrade. Therefore,my character,being completely a crafter, should go unaffected in my opinion. I don't care what database changes they made, what items were converted, I should have been able to pick up this game the day after the CU and see only the changes that should effect me whichare BE tissues. That's it.


I also sell resources and you know what? Those will not be relisted at all, ever. I really hope that others don't relist as well and that this goes on to effect more people. That's the only way that I forsee anyone caring. No, I don't expect the Devs to put out a hotfix for this, but I atleast want them or other players to see how badly they screwed over so many people. Some people may have 8 hours to sit down and unlist, inventory, and relist all their items. I have about two hours a night every other night to play. That means, it would take me over a week to convert all of my items. I just think this is an absolute ridiculous thing to ask of players, especially like some one else said "because this turns the game into work". Work that the Devs didn't want to do. Why should I work 9 hours a day, and then come home to work some more. And PAY to work, not get paid.


So Ani' I'd love to know why people can't speak out when they're displeased. I'm sorry that you don't like to hear it and that you take it for whining. Money isn't always easy to come by, so when I do invest mine, I like to feel that I'm getting full worth out of every single penny. When I don't, I voice my opinion and complaints. Sure, no one who can change thingsmay hear me in this case, but atleast I feel better speaking out about what I consider a slap in the face with fellow merchants who see things the same way I do.


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