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Thread: Feelings of a real merchant

Lyzi
Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:43 am
#27






DingoBoi wrote:



What I merely want is the profession to stop being exploited. So many have expoited merchant by getting, then dropping the skills but keeping the vendors. That has been somewhat fixed.. not perfectly, but mostly. I also want people to stop exploiting the other vendor skills, like hiring and dressing vendors.


Anyone who is a reasonable person can see it is not fair to drop the skill but keep the benefits. If you do, you are lying to yourself.


Individually, you may not see as it an exploit because you don't care about the skill, but it is an exploit when others keep that skill regardless of the skillpoint investment. this game is based upon making choices with your skillpoint investments and those can be difficult choices at times.





There is one problem with the hiring line that would need to be fixed before "nerfing" the hiring line.


Uniforms
Fix: allow us to give and retrive cloth and items given to vendor.
Reason: when we drop a weapon skill, the game do not delete our weapons, if we should
"fix" or "nerf" this skill branch, it must first be fixed so those who put expensive weapons and
cloth (st armor, tusken suits etc) on their vendors do not loose them.





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GraySeven
Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:01 pm
#28

I'm a real Merchant. I mastered Merchant before anything else, even Artisan. I used to restock 6 vendors and thousands of items weekly. I dropped Master Merchant before they gave Mastery badges...


Its fine to be against the exploitation of the profession, but don't alienate the others who feel the same way. And remember, even those who want the best for the profession may have differing opinions than yours as to what is best for the profession.


Semantics are important. The skill is "number of vendors you can have" not "number of vendors you can drop". But on the other side is the skill to "dress vendors" and not "have dressed vendors". It basically boils down to common sense.


We all want what is best for the Merchant profession, but being abusive and abrasive about it is not the way to do it. Your post does not sound like an apology, just a statement, and so most will take it how it appears. But above all remember that one basic fact:


People hate change


The Merchant vendor issue has been fixed. People who have been playing the game under the old system hate the fact that they can no longer have their 0 skill point vendors and will fight tooth and nail to keep them. Just explain to them why they are wrong and do it in an intelligent and non-confrontational manner. This will go a long way to making things better.



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Tarnak_Archvold
Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:23 am
#29


Just explain to them why they are wrong and do it in an intelligent and non-confrontational manner. This will go a long way to making things better.



And when that does not work? Do you have an alternative to telling the truth they do not wad to hear, in as way that that cannot be mistake. If so I would like to hear it, because I se no alternative to telling people that a exploit is a exploit, no matter how small it is.

Oh btw GraySeven, most of these people are incapable of using common sense.




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GraySeven
Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:24 am
#30






Just explain to them why they are wrong and do it in an intelligent and non-confrontational manner. This will go a long way to making things better.





And when that does not work? Do you have an alternative to telling the truth they do not wad to hear, in as way that that cannot be mistake. If so I would like to hear it, because I se no alternative to telling people that a exploit is a exploit, no matter how small it is.

Oh btw GraySeven, most of these people are incapable of using common sense.






If it doesn't work, then the D.I.Q. (Doofus In Question) is too immature and therefor a waste of time. Ignore them, they eventually go find something else to whine about....like wookiee stuff.






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DocSavag
Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:53 am
#31



GraySeven wrote:

Just explain to them why they are wrong and do it in an intelligent and non-confrontational manner. This will go a long way to making things better.



And when that does not work? Do you have an alternative to telling the truth they do not wad to hear, in as way that that cannot be mistake. If so I would like to hear it, because I se no alternative to telling people that a exploit is a exploit, no matter how small it is.

Oh btw GraySeven, most of these people are incapable of using common sense.

If it doesn't work, then the D.I.Q. (Doofus In Question) is too immature and therefor a waste of time. Ignore them, they eventually go find something else to whine about....like wookiee stuff.





Hence the age old truism..Don't feed the trolls. They aren't going to get it, they don't want to get it, they only want to provoke reaction. Don't give it to them and they get bored talking to themselves and they go find someone else to provoke.



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Novock
Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:03 pm
#32

LOL




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DocSavag
Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:09 pm
#33

* wonders what the hell he ever did to Thunderheart to be put in charge of this zoo *



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Korrack
Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:11 pm
#34






DocSavag wrote:
* wonders what the hell he ever did to Thunderheart to be put in charge of this zoo *





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Novock
Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:10 pm
#35

Oh com'mon Doc you know you love it.



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DocSavag
Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:36 pm
#36



Novock wrote:
Oh com'mon Doc you know you love it.





That only proves how much of a masochist I really am.



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DingoBoi
Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:58 pm
#37

Ask them to rename this the S&M forum.



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Elyssa
Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:53 pm
#38

Sales & Marketing?



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Tarnak_Archvold
Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:42 pm
#39


DocSavag wrote:

Hence the age old truism..Don't feed the trolls. They aren't going to get it, they don't want to get it, they only want to provoke reaction. Don't give it to them and they get bored talking to themselves and they go find someone else to provoke.



I still care to much about the profession to do that. I really dislike the thought of an array of topics, that end with posts like "yes you can drop the skills and keep the vendors/tent" and glorifying the process as "the smart thing to do".
I know you "sacrifice" the clothing, but a set of clothing is nothing compared to the hours it takes to get and slim young vendor with matching eyebrows and hair colour and a sensible hair cut.




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