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Thread: New on live today Unused vendor questions answered
lisasdarren wrote:
Some food for thought:
Under the old system if you went away for 37 days all your stock would be deleted
Now if you go away for 42 days all your stock and your vendor will be deleted
Which system actually allows you to go away for longer?
Of course, it would appear that the new one seems to let you go away for longer. But we're not sure the new system is actually working the way they say it is working. Sony does not like to give us specific information about anything. They want us to "discover" this wonderful world they have created. Unfortunately, by not informing us of this during TC, or putting it in only as all the vendor changes were going to live, nobody has really been able to test this rigorously (and obviously Sony themselves never tests anything rigorously). So we have reports that the system is not necessarily "working as intended" and deletions are perhaps occurring before 42 days has elapsed.
Most crafters would simply adjust to the new system, but most crafters have been burned often enough, that there is some lingering doubt about what the "real" rules are.
So your statement is completely true, but only as far as what we have been told. I would venture to say, lisasdarren, that you yourself might not feel completely comfortable to allow any of your fully-loaded vendors to sit for 40 days before "touching" it, assuming that it made no sales during that time.
[the following is allegorical in nature, and not intended to represent real people]
Young person, defiantly standing with hands on hips, "I am NOT afraid that my vendor will disappear."
Older person, with large wise eyes, saying softly, "You will be. You will be."
Message Edited by LadyGrey on 09-23-2004 08:59 AM
lisasdarren wrote:
Some food for thought:
Under the old system if you went away for 37 days all your stock would be deleted
Now if you go away for 42 days all your stock and your vendor will be deleted
Which system actually allows you to go away for longer?
If you are in game and get a warning email simply go to your vendor, withdraw an item, retrive it and then sell it again. Timer reset. This will only happen if you neither sell an item or add new stock in in a 4 week period, so for most people it won't even be needed.
More food for thought:
You're assuming that the system actually works the way it's been spelled out. But my concern is that it ISN'T working correctly. I'm just reading too many posts about people who have lost fully stocked, paid, and active sales vendors already -- and it hasn't YET been 6 weeks since this has been announced. What now?
LadyGrey wrote:
So your statement is completely true, but only as far as what we have been told. I would venture to say, lisasdarren, that you yourself might not feel completely comfortable to allow any of your fully-loaded vendors to sit for 40 days before "touching" it, assuming that it made no sales during that time.
Well if my business reached the point where i neither had a sale, nor needed to add newly crafted stock to then i probably wouldn't touch it unless I got an email warning em it was unused. I don't keep track of which vendors are selling things and which are not, i just track what sells so i know who my customers are and know what i need to manuacture to maintain stock levels.
If I lost a vendor because of a bug I would ticket it and bug it and see what they could do... If they didn't replace it then I would start the process of building stock for that vendor again, thats the fun of crafting anyway, finding materials and making things. I won't have lost anything real, money in this game is easy to come by so the credit value is meaningless.
If it is easier for me to destory 10 items than fiddle about with a full inventory until i get to my vendor to sell them, then i will destroy them, they are not 'worth' anything in real terms.
Now i admit that there are bugs in this game (who could deny it 
) but even so i am never sure that all the complaints you hear on this forum are legitimate, there is no way to tell an honest person from a cheating weasel in this game, and complaining the new system doesn't work is a tactic in trying to get it removed and those who want to cheat may well use this tactic.
lisasdarren wrote:
Some food for thought:
Under the old system if you went away for 37 days all your stock would be deleted
Now if you go away for 42 days all your stock and your vendor will be deleted
Which system actually allows you to go away for longer?
If you are in game and get a warning email simply go to your vendor, withdraw an item, retrive it and then sell it again. Timer reset. This will only happen if you neither sell an item or add new stock in in a 4 week period, so for most people it won't even be needed.
Honestly, what is so fricking hard about this?
Do any of you that keep reiterating this read the part where I said:
MY VENDOR GOT DELETED ON THIS FIRST 14-DAY EMAIL
Fivo Asia
Cafa wrote:
Honestly, what is so fricking hard about this?
Do any of you that keep reiterating this read the part where I said:
MY VENDOR GOT DELETED ON THIS FIRST 14-DAY EMAIL
Then figure it out, you got hit by a bug, send in a bug report and a ticket, being polite in both, and carry on with playing the game...
You may get some help with retrieving the lost goods, you may not, either way has it really hurt you in any real way?
GloLu wrote:
I was giving this some more contemplation, and came up with a scenario.
I am sent on a one month buisness trip. My company does not allow us to add any programing to the companies laptops and I don't own one of my own. So I have several vendors, one of which will only see buisness about once a month. I worry about that vendor, I can put enough maitinance on it to see it thru my buisness trip, but it may not get a sale.
I have three options. Put SWG on the laptop, buy a laptop or give a friend my log in to check my vendors. Well, I don't have the money to dish out for a laptop that can run SWG, and I am not going to endanger my job for a game, the job supports the game, leaving me with the friend option, a violation of the EULA. Well since I loose the vendors if I get banned or I might loose the vendors if I don't violate the EULA, I violate the EULA.
Because of SOE policy.
Here is a possible workaround. Place a chance-cube on your vendor and list it for 20k. Give your friend 20k, and instruct him to purchase the chance-cube off your vendor 2 weeks after you leave on your trip. That way you will have a guarenteed sale, and not have to violate the EULA.
Message Edited by rexan on 09-23-2004 09:59 AM
Sepen wrote:
Yogol wrote:And if your vendor doesn't sell anything in 6 weeks, well, then you don't need the vendor, do you ?
Careful there. That is a real slippery slope you are climbing; not to mention, a bit judgemental.What do I mean, slippery slope?Well, if (in your opinion, not mine!) 6 weeks of no sales means "you don't need a vendor", then what about 5 weeks and 6 days? 5 weeks and 4 days? That's okay? Maybe not (in your opinion). Then maybe 3 weeks and 2 days?It's hard to draw a line, where on one side "you need a vendor" and on the other, "you don't need one". See?It's all arbitrary. Whatever SOE picks. It doesn't mean that 6 weeks and you "don't" need a vendor. It's 6 weeks "because SOE said so". See?No need to be judgemental on others use of vendors and time span between sales. It's a slippery slope, and can do nothing but bring bad feelings.6 weeks is certainly far better than 2. Bt this still strikes me as an unneeded game mechanic.Cheers,Martek
Need has nothing to do with it. No one *needs* a vendor. Come to think of it no one *needs* this game. Many of us want this game and want vendors. It really isn ot Yogol's business if I sell 1 item a year or 1000 items a min. (unless he is buying
) I want a vendor. I got the skills. I put stuff on the vendor. I pay the Maint. Done. That should be the end of it. SOE has decreed that I must also poke the vendor in one of 2 specific ways. I will deal. Not because I need a vendor but because I want a vendor to help me sell my product to customers. I dont need a vendor for that. I want one for that.-Indene-