Merchant Archive
Thread: can this be addressed w/o being flamed
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:48 pm
#223
Songe wrote:
That's why we want and are asking for tools too.
No you aren't. You're saying that the SOLE priority for the devs at this point should be fixing poaching, and that adding more tools/functionality/skills to the profession would "destabilize" it because all the professions are nicely balanced right now, with the exception of vendor poaching.
At least, that's what Balki's saying, and I assumed you agreed with him. Did I assume wrongly?
DragonScout
Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:52 pm
#224
no. you are asking for updates to vendors. I see very little that doesn't involve upgrading/improving vendors. Vendors should not be the ONLY thing merchant stands for. Because as long as it is centered around vendors, it is going to be nothing more than a utility profession.
Songe
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:05 pm
#225
p4Samwise wrote:
Songe wrote:
That's why we want and are asking for tools too.
No you aren't. You're saying that the SOLE priority for the devs at this point should be fixing poaching, and that adding more tools/functionality/skills to the profession would "destabilize" it because all the professions are nicely balanced right now, with the exception of vendor poaching.
At least, that's what Balki's saying, and I assumed you agreed with him. Did I assume wrongly?
Grrr I should read every post before replying so I don't have to post twice.
If our only priority as this point is vendor poaching, what are those threads asking for ideas of improvement, the one about what works and what doesn't and the proposal of Doc to improve merchant?
DragonScout
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:18 pm
#226
You could work on systems for trade routes between cities (especially if JTLS ever comes out in our lifetimes..) that could be really cool.
You could have a commodities market in each city.. buy and sell and trade items between them... could work like a stock market type system. I have played other games with similar systems..
and those are just two ideas I would love to see that could grow to be something more important than running vendors.
And while yes there are a few other posts about expanding the merchant profession, most of them are centered on vendors.
You could have a commodities market in each city.. buy and sell and trade items between them... could work like a stock market type system. I have played other games with similar systems..
and those are just two ideas I would love to see that could grow to be something more important than running vendors.
And while yes there are a few other posts about expanding the merchant profession, most of them are centered on vendors.
Songe
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:25 pm
#227
I agree there. Why ont start a thread about those ideas then? I'm sure we could get some good brainstorming.
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:28 pm
#228
They're what I'd call the "back burner". The number one item on your issues list is vendor poaching.
Songe wrote:
If our only priority as this point is vendor poaching, what are those threads asking for ideas of improvement, the one about what works and what doesn't and the proposal of Doc to improve merchant?
Furthermore, according to Balki, the self-declaredvoice of your profession:
"There have been very few points made by [you scumsucking poachers]that have swayed in the slightestany merchants position that A. Poaching is not damaging.B. That ending the bug that causes poaching should not be the one focus of the devs at this time."
He said very unambiguously that all merchants feel that the one focus of the devs should be fixing poaching.
Songe
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:38 pm
#229
It doesn't mean that all agree, and it doesn't mean that we don't also want to improve the merchant profession.
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:42 pm
#230
You mean Balki wasn't actually speaking for all merchants when he said:
"There have been very few points made by [thosebottomfeeding poachers]that have swayed in the slightestany merchants position that A. Poaching is not damaging.B. That ending the bug that causes poaching should not be the one focus of the devs at this time."
???
Songe
Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:54 pm
#231
I don't see him saying that he is speaking for all merchants. I see him saying that no argument was given to make him change his opinion though. That being said... I'm sure a lot of merchants would like to see poaching gone before we start making changes.
p4Samwise
Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:57 pm
#232
"There have been very few points made by [thosebottomfeeding poachers]that have swayed in the slightestany merchants position that A. Poaching is not damaging.B. That ending the bug that causes poaching should not be the one focus of the devs at this time."
The phrase "any merchant[']s" bolded for emphasis. He very clearly said that this position is held by all merchants and is not being swayed, which led me to assume that he'd surveyed all of the merchants on this board and they had all indicated agreement. You're a merchant, correct?
JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:09 pm
#234
Uhhh how about it's page 11 and thread number 2 million and 5 and NO ONE's been swayed. Let's just give it a rest, hmmm? Let it go. We're right, you're wrong. 