Merchant Archive

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rockcrown wrote:

sorry if this was mentioned above... but what about all those people who use vendors for storage? if they activate this feature on their vendor.. I dont wanna see stuff at 9999999999... /shrug

there goes the idea of location location location!

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lol

yeah, they'll be a LOT of that for sale on the bazaar.

Also, i might protest by putting all sorts of crap up there for 99999999999.....

lol

/cheer

Let me toss out some ideas for you:

Would you accept this:

1. No Delivery.
2. No Viewing other Vendors from private vendors. Only bazaar terminals would allow global searching
3. The # of items that you could be listed on the bazaar globally is controlled by your advertising skills with Master Merchants able to advertise 100% of their items. Non merchants can only advertise the 25 slots they already have on the bazaar. Have to work out how this will work.
4. The Scope the listings to be determined by your Manage Vendors skill (it makes sense because of the next statement -->) Business III would give you only Regional Coverage on the bazaar, Novice Merchant would give you Planet Coverage , and Management III would give you Galactic Coverage.
5. Items "Purchased" from the Bazaar show up in the FOR SALE tab along with all the other merchandise in a highlighted manner and only for the person who has purchased the item remotely. The price for the item is 0 since the item has already been purchased. They click buy and the item is retrieved or put into the available items bin if they have no room.

This concedes the pricing issue and I understand if that is still not acceptable to you. I just toss the ideas out as possible solutions. These are my own thoughts based on conversations I've read and had with other people and shouldn't be considered in any way official. I present these as a fellow player. You all have to decide if you want Elyssa to present something to the devs.

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DocSavag wrote:
Let me toss out some ideas for you:

Would you accept this:

1. No Delivery.
2. No Viewing other Vendors from private vendors. Only bazaar terminals would allow global searching
3. The # of items that you could be listed on the bazaar globally is controlled by your advertising skills with Master Merchants able to advertise 100% of their items. Non merchants can only advertise the 25 slots they already have on the bazaar. Have to work out how this will work.
4. The Scope the listings to be determined by your Manage Vendors skill (it makes sense because of the next statement -->) Business III would give you only Regional Coverage on the bazaar, Novice Merchant would give you Planet Coverage , and Management III would give you Galactic Coverage.
5. Items "Purchased" from the Bazaar show up in the FOR SALE tab along with all the other merchandise in a highlighted manner and only for the person who has purchased the item remotely. The price for the item is 0 since the item has already been purchased. They click buy and the item is retrieved or put into the available items bin if they have no room.

This concedes the pricing issue and I understand if that is still not acceptable to you. I just toss the ideas out as possible solutions. These are my own thoughts based on conversations I've read and had with other people and shouldn't be considered in any way official. I present these as a fellow player. You all have to decide if you want Elyssa to present something to the devs.

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I'm afraid this just would not do it for me. If that had been brought up alone, it'd be bad. The idea of being happy with that simply because the current plan is so lame is rediculus. What I would like to see is an idea that's been brought up before (perhaps in this thread, so many voices tend to run together). Someone suggested player city shopping terminals that would allow folks to browse all the vendors within structures in the city limits.

With Jedi being economy exempt, ADKs and the "free now-non-uber-rare resource kits", I'm afraid any more concessions are just too much.

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DocSavag wrote:
Let me toss out some ideas for you:

Would you accept this:

1. No Delivery.
2. No Viewing other Vendors from private vendors. Only bazaar terminals would allow global searching
3. The # of items that you could be listed on the bazaar globally is controlled by your advertising skills with Master Merchants able to advertise 100% of their items. Non merchants can only advertise the 25 slots they already have on the bazaar. Have to work out how this will work.
4. The Scope the listings to be determined by your Manage Vendors skill (it makes sense because of the next statement -->) Business III would give you only Regional Coverage on the bazaar, Novice Merchant would give you Planet Coverage , and Management III would give you Galactic Coverage.
5. Items "Purchased" from the Bazaar show up in the FOR SALE tab along with all the other merchandise in a highlighted manner and only for the person who has purchased the item remotely. The price for the item is 0 since the item has already been purchased. They click buy and the item is retrieved or put into the available items bin if they have no room.

This concedes the pricing issue and I understand if that is still not acceptable to you. I just toss the ideas out as possible solutions. These are my own thoughts based on conversations I've read and had with other people and shouldn't be considered in any way official. I present these as a fellow player. You all have to decide if you want Elyssa to present something to the devs.

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A hearty amen and "no duh" to 1 and 2.

3 makes some sense. It has to be tied to actual skills that ONLY MERCHANTS have. Not just anyone should be able to do this. Aristans, no. Combats, no. IF THIS HAPPNES, it should be MERCHANT ONLY skills. Same with 4. These things need tweaking, but they're not idiotic. But i'm not necessarily endorsing them. Things need to be thought out better. I still don't see why we really need these changes, though. I don't see a compelling enough reason yet.

I don't understand 5, not fully. As is, it's too stupid, not with out some higher fees involed, some increased percent of the sale, for example. Perhaps they could be put on "hold." They are put on deposit, and unless the buyer retreives them within a certain amount of time, the purchase is voided, and buyers don't get the deposit back. That will keep uber-rich people from buying everything up, too, unless they wanna run all over and pick it up within the time frame.

One of our worries is that shopping would become "mail order" only, that one will never ever have to go to an actual shop to shop. That would really hurt merchants and crafters, and malls, I think. Perhaps if you put some sort of cap on how many "mail orders" one could fill.

I don't know what to think about 5.

Message Edited by Bhasayate on 02-12-2005 10:53 PM

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DocSavag wrote:
Let me toss out some ideas for you:

Would you accept this:

1. No Delivery. YES
2. No Viewing other Vendors from private vendors. Only bazaar terminalswould allow global searching YES, or a terminal made specifically for this (so it does not cross over into and there for flood out bazaar sells)
3. The # of items that you could be listed on the bazaar globally is controlled by your advertising skills with Master Merchants able to advertise 100% of their items. Non merchants can only advertise the 25 slots they already have on the bazaar. Have to work out how this will work. NO, let every vendor set out and able to be 'turned on for search'be entitled to list what ison themfully
4. The Scope the listings to be determined by your Manage Vendors skill (it makes sense because of the next statement --> Business III would give you only Regional Coverage on the bazaar, Novice Merchant would give you Planet Coverage , and Management III would give you Galactic Coverage. YES
5. Items "Purchased" from the Bazaar show up in the FOR SALE tab along with all the other merchandise in a highlighted manner and only for the person who has purchased the item remotely. The price for the item is 0 since the item has already been purchased. They click buy and the item is retrieved or put into the available items bin if they have no room. IFFY, I would perfer that they could not buy/puchase at all from the 'search' terminal. This would disude any greifing by purchasing and then finding an entry or banning in place. It would also still encourage more comparison and inpulse buys since they would have to actually get there to be sure they get the item before someone else.

This concedes the pricing issue and I understand if that is still not acceptable to you. I just toss the ideas out as possible solutions. These are my own thoughts based on conversations I've read and had with other people and shouldn't be considered in any way official. I present these as a fellow player. You all have to decide if you want Elyssa to present something to the devs.

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Message Edited by Ani_cul on 02-13-2005 01:42 AM

If this goes into effect, I'm pretty certain that I will just drop all of my crafting skills for combat, so that I will actualy be able to make money.

Not only will this eliminate people buying from all but the lowest priced merchants on a WHOLE SERVER.

Also, as stated previously, this eliminates the impulse buy which is a merchant's best friend. For example, more than once I've had people browsing my Bio-Engineer vendor and have ended up buying an AV-21 schematic for 250,000 credits, when the guy two doors over was selling them for 150,000.

As a customer of all kinds of shops, I dislike the thought of having all goods on every bazaar with instant delivery. It would be useful, say, if you were at Nym's stronghold with no weapon and needed to purchase a replacment (Nym's bazaar is notoriously barren). However, I've taken trips to wonderful player cities just to purchase weapons and have found great little out of the way vendors with beautiful shops. I took an 8000m jaunt across Dant last night to by a replacement swoop, and it was a rewarding experience. Save our crafters.

Message Edited by wolfe2k on 02-12-2005 12:23 PM