Merchant Archive
Thread: A Vendor is to A merchant like........
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UniformMarshal
Sun May 23, 2004 3:46 pm
#1
A survey tool to an Artisan...You can't survey if you drop Artisan.
The skill "Intimidate Mob" to a brawler...You can't Intimidate if you drop Brawler.
The Skill Dance is to entertainer...You can't dance if you drop Entertainer.
The Skill Play Instrument is to entertainer...No playing for a non entertainer
Droid schematics are to Droid Engineer...You can't make new schematics if you drop DE
Harvesting Animal Products is to scouts...You cant harvest without scout
Slicing is to a smuggler...You can't slice without smuggler.
Being that all this is TRUE in the game.....
A VENDOR is to a Merchant...You shouldnt be able to manage one without it!!!!!
SO STOP ASKING FOR DEV PERMISSION TO POACH MY PROFESSION YOU GREEDY 133t HOGS
The skill "Intimidate Mob" to a brawler...You can't Intimidate if you drop Brawler.
The Skill Dance is to entertainer...You can't dance if you drop Entertainer.
The Skill Play Instrument is to entertainer...No playing for a non entertainer
Droid schematics are to Droid Engineer...You can't make new schematics if you drop DE
Harvesting Animal Products is to scouts...You cant harvest without scout
Slicing is to a smuggler...You can't slice without smuggler.
Being that all this is TRUE in the game.....
A VENDOR is to a Merchant...You shouldnt be able to manage one without it!!!!!
SO STOP ASKING FOR DEV PERMISSION TO POACH MY PROFESSION YOU GREEDY 133t HOGS
p4Samwise
Mon May 24, 2004 2:28 pm
#4
Good list for the most part, but this is a counterproductive example.
UniformMarshal wrote:
Droid schematics are to Droid Engineer...You can't make new schematics if you drop DE
You can't make new schematics if you drop DE, but you can use all the schematics you've already created. You can't create new vendors if youdrop Merchant...
UniformMarshal
Mon May 24, 2004 2:33 pm
#5
A schematic is not infynite. It has an end of use. Intime you use up the schematics. A vendor just sits there forever in the current publish. THATS the PROBLEM!!
END VENDOR POACHING!!!
A TRUE MERCHANT NEVER HAS EMPTY VENDORS!!!!
p4Samwise
Mon May 24, 2004 2:56 pm
#6
I realize that (though really, you can make enough schematics that they're practically infinite... ask Tortilla on Bria how close he is to running out of temp-nerf T21 schematics). Just pointing out that in this particular instance the analogy is in fact the very one that your detractors tend to use.
MyT_Chicken
Mon May 24, 2004 3:40 pm
#7
Even if you have a billion schems......resources die in time....you would run out of resources/components far before you used up all of the schems. The point still isn't valid....there is still a limit on schems....vendors live forever.
p4Samwise
Mon May 24, 2004 4:14 pm
#8
MyT_Chicken wrote:
Even if you have a billion schems......resources die in time....you would run out of resources/components far before you used up all of the schems. The point still isn't valid....there is still a limit on schems....vendors live forever.
I say again - talk to one of the masters who took advantage of the temp nerf. 43 factories loaded up with resources and schematics from that day.
As I understand it, though, vendors living forever isn't the problem. Using vendors without merchant skills (the way that schematics can be used by non-crafters) is the problem. Correct? That's what makes it a bad analogy.
UniformMarshal
Mon May 24, 2004 5:01 pm
#9
The hole in your analogy Psam, is that It doesnt matter if they had 1 or 1000 factories. By game mechanic SOMETHING will run out at some point. Either resources or Schematic uses take your pick, one day down the road it will end.
Managing vendors without skills is a continous, unintterupted exploit. EVEN IF YOU DONT PAY MAINTAINENCE ON YOUR VENDOR, it stays there. IF you surrender all of Merchant and artisan, you STILL keep your vendor. You can do at least 75% of what merchants do, Load, stock and Sell from vendors.
The Ability to Load, manage and stock vendors belong to the Art Biz 3 + and Merchant classes ONLY.
Dear Devs,
I would like to be able to harvest creatures after attaining and dropping scout because how could I "forget" how to butcher the animals?
p4Samwise
Mon May 24, 2004 5:20 pm
#10
So you're saying you'd be fine with vendor poaching as long as the vendors "wore out" at some point (possibly days, possible years) after the skills were dropped?
UniformMarshal
Tue May 25, 2004 7:23 am
#11
Well one idea was if you dropped merchant skills your vendor would "lock" meaning you could only sell what was on it, you couldnt add to iventory. Then when the item list hits 0 the vendor goes bye bye.
p4Samwise
Tue May 25, 2004 3:31 pm
#12
UniformMarshal wrote:
Well one idea was if you dropped merchant skills your vendor would "lock" meaning you could only sell what was on it, you couldnt add to iventory. Then when the item list hits 0 the vendor goes bye bye.
I agree, that's the best way to handle droppage of "uncertified" vendors. It'd even let tailors use "uncertified" vendors as clotheshorses by listing items on the vendor for 999999999999 credits.
Though here's aproblem with that scenario- what if you're certified to use 3 vendors and you have 4? Do they all become inoperable? I guess you could have some interface for choosing which ones you want to continue operating as vendors...
Ijuakos
Tue May 25, 2004 10:01 pm
#13
UniformMarshal wrote:A schematic is not infynite. It has an end of use. Intime you use up the schematics. A vendor just sits there forever in the current publish. THATS the PROBLEM!!END VENDOR POACHING!!!A TRUE MERCHANT NEVER HAS EMPTY VENDORS!!!!
Gave me an idea.. make it to where you need business 3 (artisan line) to "Pay Maintenance" to a vendor.
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