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Thread: Can we have the storeroom go back to holding items for 30 days again?

SeismicEdge
Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:56 pm
#1

Really now! Tell me, how does having items fade after 7 days in the stockroom help keep people from storing items in their vendor? If I were to store things in my vendor I would just pull it out every couple of weeks and then put it right back up for sale for C99,999,999. That's easy to do. How many people would have more than a few backpacks full of items to store anyway? Thats just too easy to manage. The real problem here is when you have lots of REAL stuff for sale.


I for one have almost 1,500 items for sale right now. I have gone over 1,500 a few times as well. Do you have any idea how difficult manageing over 1,500 items is. How about if I want to take a vacation? I have heard people say just check the time left and then put those items back up for sale. Well, well, well. I would say those people don't manage an inventory of 1,500 items. Let me tell you, its not easy. In order to make it work you need to space out the sales. If I have all 1,500 items go up for sale on the same day, they ALL come OFF sale on the same day 30 days later. Then I have to rush to get them all back up for sale before they expire 7 days later. What a drag!


Right now I have 2 choices if I want to take a vacation. One, I can go through each and every single item on my vendor, withdraw it then resell every item that would be in danger of expireing before my return, or two, I can trust a friend to take care of my inventory. Hmm, that second one sounds rather dangerous.


I would instead like to see the time limit on items in the stockroom increase back to 30 days. This would give me time to go visit family in Arizona and spend a couple of weeks with them without worrieing about loosing 1/3 - 1/2 of my inventory.


What do you all think?
StumanKadir
Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:39 pm
#2

Umm...because vendors are designed to sell things and not to store things.


If you find you need more storage space, then drop another house or upgrade to a larger one. Storing stuff on vendors could almost be rated as an exploit, in that the vendor system was not setup to allow for the permanent storing of items with high price tags. For myself I would like to see a cap of 10m credits on any items to prevent this from happening. If you have to much stuff, then get rid of it, or give it a friend to hold for you until you need it. There are alternatives around to vendor storage.


You can't have a profession and then not work at it, and the 30 day on, 7 day off setup means that vendors need to be constantly looked after and means that as a merchant, you have to keep working at it.




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bradimere
Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:52 pm
#3

having the stockroom at 7 days Sucks, i lost connecting with my isp on moving, (was originally set up for a down time of 1 day) and came back on 2 1/2 weeks later. guess what, i lost over 200 items on my vendor that came off the marcket. CSR response " sorry for the inconvienence, but 1 week is pleanty enough time to restock your vendor so you dont lose items"


BUT what the hell, i swear they have a monkey at times just hitting a aurto response key on some complaints.
SOULSTRIFE
Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:20 pm
#4

buy a small factory and put things in the input hopper u can store stupid amounts of things in them for a small maint fee and one lot.



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SeismicEdge
Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:20 am
#5


StumanKadir wrote:

Umm...because vendors are designed to sell things and not to store things.


If you find you need more storage space, then drop another house or upgrade to a larger one. Storing stuff on vendors could almost be rated as an exploit, in that the vendor system was not setup to allow for the permanent storing of items with high price tags. For myself I would like to see a cap of 10m credits on any items to prevent this from happening. If you have to much stuff, then get rid of it, or give it a friend to hold for you until you need it. There are alternatives around to vendor storage.


You can't have a profession and then not work at it, and the 30 day on, 7 day off setup means that vendors need to be constantly looked after and means that as a merchant, you have to keep working at it.

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STORAGE????!!!! Did you even read my post? This isn't about storage. In fact I don't have one single item stored on my vendor. NOT ONE! Everything on my vendor is for sale and at a fair price at that. Just where in my post did you read how I needed more storage space?

What I NEED, is the ability to take a two week vacation and not loose a weeks worth of resources/goods that have expired. Gees, even a store manager/owner can take a vacation once in a while!


Hey StumanKadir. Before you troll into another post, try reading it all the way throughfirst!
DocSavag
Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:36 am
#6

Actually if you plan it you have 5 weeks before you would lose anything. Pull everntyng and relist it prior to going on vacation and nothing will expre for 30 days.



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Sevardos
Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:57 am
#7

Oh come on everyone - for the love of pete, what is with this community sometimes sheesh! This person has stated a very valid point regarding a very real situation.


I personally am in the same boat. 6 vendors and with each vendor having 300 to 400 items ineach of them. That's 2400 items in total. I also restock my vendors daily so I generally have no clue what will expire and when. Checking the times on 2400 items would be extraordinaryly painful - so would restocking them all at once.


Instead of the standard non-answer or throwing eggs at people, how about a constructive response. - like...


If the devs won't consider extending the 7 days, how about adding something in the proposed merchant revamp that will allow you to view when your items will expireand sort them accordingly. This could tie in with the propose multiple-select stocking feature. At least then before I go away, I can see what will expire in 2 weeks quickly, and restock just those items quickly. Less pain, less fuss, more fun.


Lets throw out some suggestions and solutions and stop this practice of automatically crapping on people who post issues on this forum.





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Flynn_Nomad
Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:59 am
#8






StumanKadir wrote:

Umm...because vendors are designed to sell things and not to store things.


If you find you need more storage space, then drop another house or upgrade to a larger one. Storing stuff on vendors could almost be rated as an exploit, in that the vendor system was not setup to allow for the permanent storing of items with high price tags. For myself I would like to see a cap of 10m credits on any items to prevent this from happening. If you have to much stuff, then get rid of it, or give it a friend to hold for you until you need it. There are alternatives around to vendor storage.


You can't have a profession and then not work at it, and the 30 day on, 7 day off setup means that vendors need to be constantly looked after and means that as a merchant, you have to keep working at it.





Umm...I don't think he was soley trying to get the time extended for storage purposes...


He clearly stated that his problem was with what happens to unsold items after 30 days, they only get 7 days in storage...


He makes a great point and the reason the devs did this is for database reasons because people were using vendors soley for storage.


So again, the few who need the longer storage time because their sales come off get punished because of the few who abused it.


I personally know of a guildmate who had his father die.


He is a master weaponsmith so he keeps a very stocked vendor, and he's been gone for like a month now.


His stuff started dropping into storage and its a good thing our master merchant is the one who dropped his vendor for him.



Maybe the solution will come when non merchant vendors start to poof (when they fix it)


We will see the database storage get cut in half and then maybe the devs will let us have a little more freedom with storage time.




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Tarnak_Archvold
Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:10 am
#9

I have on more then one occasion restocked 800 items in one day. It's not that big a hazel, and something that anyone can do in a few hours if they wand to.
With something like 2400 items it would of cause take time, but take 500 items a day an it will only take 5 days with only a small amount of work each day.

Considering we can have an unlimited amounts of items for sale, the work involved is not so bad.




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Cafa
Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:35 pm
#10






Flynn_Nomad wrote:





StumanKadir wrote:

Umm...because vendors are designed to sell things and not to store things.


If you find you need more storage space, then drop another house or upgrade to a larger one. Storing stuff on vendors could almost be rated as an exploit, in that the vendor system was not setup to allow for the permanent storing of items with high price tags. For myself I would like to see a cap of 10m credits on any items to prevent this from happening. If you have to much stuff, then get rid of it, or give it a friend to hold for you until you need it. There are alternatives around to vendor storage.


You can't have a profession and then not work at it, and the 30 day on, 7 day off setup means that vendors need to be constantly looked after and means that as a merchant, you have to keep working at it.





Umm...I don't think he was soley trying to get the time extended for storage purposes...


He clearly stated that his problem was with what happens to unsold items after 30 days, they only get 7 days in storage...


He makes a great point and the reason the devs did this is for database reasons because people were using vendors soley for storage.


So again, the few who need the longer storage time because their sales come off get punished because of the few who abused it.


I personally know of a guildmate who had his father die.


He is a master weaponsmith so he keeps a very stocked vendor, and he's been gone for like a month now.


His stuff started dropping into storage and its a good thing our master merchant is the one who dropped his vendor for him.


Maybe the solution will come when non merchant vendors start to poof (when they fix it)


We will see the database storage get cut in half and then maybe the devs will let us have a little more freedom with storage time.




Well the database response is invalid. By telling us that the devs refuse to address any form of database consolidation with resource stacks and crates TH has plainly indicated that the database storage is a non-issue. Anyone using the database storage to justify anything has not followed TH's commentary very well.


The problem is player management, in my opinion. They have to have a way to make it worthwhile to play the game, so to speak, and making you work (with the lamest excuse for a database entry form I'm seen since 1984) is their lovely way of providing you with a timesink so you actually feel that you accomplished something.


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Geevo
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:01 am
#11

I store stuff on my vendors ...


1 Vendor ... Droid Sales

1 Vendor ... Resource Storage

1 Vendor ... Component Storage


7 days, 1 day, makes no difference ... I store it there by pricing at $99999999



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DocSavag
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:14 am
#12



Geevo wrote:
I store stuff on my vendors ...
1 Vendor ... Droid Sales
1 Vendor ... Resource Storage
1 Vendor ... Component Storage
7 days, 1 day, makes no difference ... I store it there by pricing at $99999999





Why store components like that? Why not put the m up for sale at a reasonable price that would make you a nice profit if they sold? If they sell you made good money. If they don't you pull them off when needed to make stuff? I did that for months with some Energy Distributors and Power Conditioners. I think it was about 60/40 sales vs use by the time it was over with. *shrug* Why have stuff lying around in your vendor that can't be purchased?



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SeismicEdge
Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:31 pm
#13


Thank you Sevardos. Someone who read the post and understands what I was trying to say.


I agree that running a vendor shouldn't all be automatic, but do goods at the department store just up and disappear after 40 days?


How many of you put 1,500 on your vendor on the same day. You do know that means all of them are going to expire in 30 days and you have to do it alllll over again. Over and over again every 30 days. Take my word for it, it will become such a drag you will want to quit being a merchant. I have just spent the last 4 weeks spreading out my inventory so I won't have to put up with that. I'd rather not have to again because I want to take a vacation.

Message Edited by SeismicEdge on 07-17-2004 08:53 PM

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